Donn Buchfinck on thu 3 jun 04
does anyone out there do onglaze enamels
I would love to know about this.
where to purchace them and such.
Thank you
Donn Buchfinck
Paul Lewing on thu 3 jun 04
on 6/3/04 1:14 PM, Donn Buchfinck at DonnBuchfinck@AOL.COM wrote:
> does anyone out there do onglaze enamels
> I would love to know about this.
where to purchace them and such.
Hi, Donn. I have quite a bit of information on overglaze enamels and china
paints, and use a lot of them. I assume that's what you mean by "onglaze"
enamels.
Some people make a distinction between china paints and enamels, the
distinction being that china paints are translucent, and enamels are opaque.
This is not the same distinction that china painters make when they use
those words, however. When they say "enamels" they mean a substance that
will retain its shape when painted on, whereas china paints lay flat. Some
of them refer to "flat enamel" and "raised enamel" to make the distinction.
So which is it you're looking for?
Amaco sells a product called Versacolor, either water or oil based, that
they refer to as an overglaze enamel. It's pretty opaque. If you're
looking for a supplier of china paints, I can give you some numbers to call.
These companies also sell what china painters refer to as enamel, as well as
the appropriate mediums for applying it.
I just signed a contract with ACerS to write a book on china paint and
overglazes, which we're hoping will be on the market in time for NCECA 2006.
I'm hoping it will be the definitive text on the subject, and all those clay
artists who like to paint on their work will flock to this medium. Now I
just have to do the work.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Ivor and Olive Lewis on fri 4 jun 04
Dear Don Buchfinck,
I have a couple of very nice instructional books on the topic, though
it is treated as "Painting on Porcelain"
Dony Alexiev, "Painting on Porcelain, Composition and Technique" ISBN
2-844-150-01-2.
Nicoletta Zanzrdi, "Guide to Ceramics Painting". ISBN 0-06-430134-6.
Both have their uses but I like Nicoletta's text.
Most ceramic supply houses carry the stock you need. Art supply houses
are the best place for Brushes.
Have lots of fun.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
Potters Council Member
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Geraldine Wallace on fri 4 jun 04
I do on glaze enamels all the time...I call it china painting, but over glaze
is also the same thing. There are many web sites about china
painting(usually flowers) but the basic info. is the same. I use a sealy medium which is
water based, then grind it with a matte knife on a pieces of frosted glass, then
paint it on the pieces (usually a glazed piece). Then it is fired at a low
temp...(017, 018) in my elec. kiln...two things are good...the enamel or china
paint stays pretty much in the same place and it does not dry until it is
fired (easy to make corrections). This is a very old process. Usually you can
get the supplies at reg. clay store....probably the two co. to comtact are Sealy
and Willowby. Just get some and try...it isn't that difficult...gerry
Paul Lewing on fri 4 jun 04
on 6/4/04 5:12 AM, Geraldine Wallace at Gere4clay@AOL.COM wrote:
> I use a sealy medium which is
> water based,
Gerry, that's probably some form of glycerin or glycol. You can get
propylene glycol at ceramic supply stores, used in glaze mixing. Or you can
get polyethylene glycol by the gallon, used as a refrigerant in mobile home
air conditioners and as a laxative at medical supply places (there it's
called something like "Go-Lightly"- boy is that a misnomer!). Or you can
use ethylene glycol, which is antifreeze. I've used all of them, and they
all work just fine, and are much cheaper than buying the medium from china
paint suppliers.
Usually you can get the supplies at reg. clay store....probably the two
co. to comtact are Sealy and Willowby.
Actually, very few regular clay suppliers sell china paints. The only one I
know is Standard. Although many carry the Amaco water-based set of china
paint in a tray, but they're very limited colors. I buy a lot from
Willoughby's (note the spelling- sorry, Gerry) and Rynne China, but I'mm not
familiar with Sealy. Do you have an address or phone number?
Just get some and try...it isn't that difficult...gerry
I agree. If you've ever done watercolor or oil painting, it's not that
different. I never had any lessons, and I do just fine.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Geraldine Wallace on sat 5 jun 04
About Sealy....I know a place (Ceramic Crafts in San Francisco) that carry
this brand. I actually purchased a pint of Sealy medium about two years ago and
am still using it. No fumes. I did forget to mention that when you fire
over glazes(china paint, etc.) make sure you are very well ventilated. I have
also found that places that carry doll making supplies usually have supplies for
china painting...(also all sizes of eyes ) I have never used Rynne....I
look forward to seeing your book, Paul...I think Elaine Levin was working on a
similar article a few years ago. Thanks for the info and spelling help.
Gerry
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