Ivor and Olive Lewis on sat 19 jun 04
Dear Friends,
Brown is a tern I dislike. As a term it is almost undefinable. The
dicitonary closest to hand describes it as a mixture of yellow, red
and black. Or the colour of toasted bread, which could be anything
from pale orange to something close to black.
Any chance that we might be objective in our observations? How would
Goethe described what we see using his Theory of Colour? Would Newton,
in theory of course!have had a different opinion?
So, what characteristics do I search for to identify a Glaze as a
"Brown Celadon"
Just being inquisitive.
Best regards,Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Christy Pines on sun 20 jun 04
For those of you curious, the "physics today. org" site has an article
all about Newton and Goethe and color. No mention of brown, by the way.
http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-55/iss-7/p43.html
And by the way, when I searched google for *goethe theory of color* it
brought me 18,200 sites to peruse, including a picture of a J.M.W.
Turner painting called "Light and Color (Goethe's Theory)" that seems to
feature much that we might call *brown*. I'm leaning towards the
shades-of-orange description for these browns as well as for the brown
celedon of Elaine Coleman. Butterscotch (as she calls it) really is kind
of an deep orange. Meanwhile, I"ve got some reading to do. 18,200 sites.
I'll be back later!
christy in connecticut, wondering where *brown*, the word, came from anyway
cpines at ix.netcom.com
(quoted from one of those many sites. funny how blue pottery sells so
well. guess people don't know about the phychological effect of the color!)
"Goethe created a color wheel showing the psychological effect of each
color. He divided all the colors into two groups the plus side (from
red through orange to yellow) and the minus side (from green through
violet to blue). Colors of the plus side produce excitement and
cheerfulness. Colors of the minus side are associated with weakness and
unsettled feelings."
Ivor and Olive Lewis wrote:
>Brown is a term I dislike. As a term it is almost undefinable.
>
>Any chance that we might be objective in our observations? How would
>Goethe described what we see using his Theory of Colour? Would Newton,
>in theory of course!have had a different opinion?
>
>
Ivor and Olive Lewis on mon 21 jun 04
Dear Christy Pines,
From my limited experience of the Goethe Optical Science and Newtonian
Optics, I detect a most subtle contrast in experimental procedures
used by these two investigators. Information given to me from reading
the Goethe account and from my experience with the prism as a device
for analysing light leads me to think they are observing light from
differing viewpoints They see and discuss different phenomena. So
their results are not comparable. But this does open the way for a
synthesis of hypotheses.
Best Regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Lee Love on mon 21 jun 04
Christy Pines wrote:
> For those of you curious, the "physics today. org" site has an article
> all about Newton and Goethe and color.
>
> http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-55/iss-7/p43.html
Thanks for this article Christy. Newton was not so interested in
color as he was in proving his theory. Here is a quote from Newton:
" But those failures did not worry him: Such color-mixing
problems, he remarked,^7
were
"Curiosities of little or no moment to understanding the Phenomena of
Nature.""
On the otherhand, Goethe's studies were connected to his specific
interest in color:
"Goethe's scientific interest in color was inspired by the natural
optical phenomena and the coloristic traditions of Renaissance painting
that he encountered during his first journey to Italy (1786-88)"
> No mention of brown, by the way.
This may be a cultural thing. No doubt, farmers are very
familiar and versed in the different colors of the soil. I recall
hearing on NPR, someone saying that the folks living in the rain forest
didn't differentiate blue from green. The commentator said it was
because they never saw the sky, but only the canopy of green made by the
rain forest (I am guessing the knew blue insects when they saw them. ).
I thought this might be incorrect, because traditionally, in
Japan, there is not a strong distinction between green and blue
either. And blue sky is easy to see here. One of the outcomes of this
is that I have noticed, is that many of the traffic lights are more
blue, red and yellow than they are green, red and yellow.
Lee
--
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://journals.fotki.com/togeika/Mashiko/ Commentary On Pottery
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