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canvas squares ,now health and safety comment

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claybair on thu 17 jun 04


Ann,

I would think that they would get very moldy
if kept damp and in a bag. A remedy might
be a bit of bleach in the water.

Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Brink
Linda- I am very new at this, having made 8 small squares and used them
twice so far, but what about keeping them damp in a large plastic tub?
Since they are brought to a damp state in order to be used, why not store
them that way? If all the edges are dry when a pot is removed, a quick
spray of water, and put it back in the box. Or, each student could have a
large zip-lock bag and take care of their own.

Ann Brink in Lompoc CA


Subject: Re: canvas squares ,now health and safety comment


The idea of using canvas squares as bats is very attractive but I have
concerns around their use on a large scale in a school environment. Part of
the process requires handling and storage of dry, slip coated squares. I
cannot envision how this can be done without adding considerable dust to the
environment.

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Linda Rosen on thu 17 jun 04


The idea of using canvas squares as bats is very attractive but I have
concerns around their use on a large scale in a school environment. Part =
of
the process requires handling and storage of dry, slip coated squares. I
cannot envision how this can be done without adding considerable dust to =
the
environment. The strategy that I use to keep the environment for 200 =
ceramic
students reasonably clean involves keeping clay damp and copious wet
cleaning ( no sanding at any stage, recycling done early in the process
etc.)If someone can give me management ideas for drying and storing that
many bats, I would be very interested in the process which offers a =
space
saving, economical and beginner friendly option. Just how do the bats =
get
dried and how are they transferred to storage, what kind of storage ...
these are the kind of questions I face. I am thinking I would need 3 =
squares
per student so I am thinking in terms of 600 squares.

Linda Rosen, Toronto

Georgia O Keeffe QUOTATION: I decided that if I could paint that flower =
in a
huge scale, you could not ignore its beauty.



=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Vince =
Pitelka
Sent: June 17, 2004 2:26 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: canvas squares as bats

> Thanks for describing this process.. Where do you get oilcloth canvas. =
Is
> it the smelly stuff you used to buy at the 5 and dime for table =
cloths?

Craig Dunn Clark on thu 17 jun 04


Linda, just keep the canvas bats in those gallon sized plastic "Zippy
Bags." Or divide smaller numbers of squares into the sandwich sized ones.
The students could be responsible for their own and they could quickly wash
them after each use, outside, in a five gallon bucket of water.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
Disclaimer......my studio generally is a horrific mess. I try, but it keeps
slidding back into what seems to be a natural "state of nature." It has
gotten so bad that I get uncomfortable with things when I'v gotten
everything cleaned up and put away.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Rosen"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: canvas squares ,now health and safety comment


The idea of using canvas squares as bats is very attractive but I have
concerns around their use on a large scale in a school environment. Part of
the process requires handling and storage of dry, slip coated squares. I
cannot envision how this can be done without adding considerable dust to the
environment. The strategy that I use to keep the environment for 200 ceramic
students reasonably clean involves keeping clay damp and copious wet
cleaning ( no sanding at any stage, recycling done early in the process
etc.)If someone can give me management ideas for drying and storing that
many bats, I would be very interested in the process which offers a space
saving, economical and beginner friendly option. Just how do the bats get
dried and how are they transferred to storage, what kind of storage ...
these are the kind of questions I face. I am thinking I would need 3 squares
per student so I am thinking in terms of 600 squares.

Linda Rosen, Toronto

Georgia O Keeffe QUOTATION: I decided that if I could paint that flower in a
huge scale, you could not ignore its beauty.





-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Vince Pitelka
Sent: June 17, 2004 2:26 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: canvas squares as bats

> Thanks for describing this process.. Where do you get oilcloth canvas. Is
> it the smelly stuff you used to buy at the 5 and dime for table cloths?

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Ann Brink on thu 17 jun 04


Linda- I am very new at this, having made 8 small squares and used them
twice so far, but what about keeping them damp in a large plastic tub?
Since they are brought to a damp state in order to be used, why not store
them that way? If all the edges are dry when a pot is removed, a quick
spray of water, and put it back in the box. Or, each student could have a
large zip-lock bag and take care of their own.

Ann Brink in Lompoc CA


Subject: Re: canvas squares ,now health and safety comment


The idea of using canvas squares as bats is very attractive but I have
concerns around their use on a large scale in a school environment. Part of
the process requires handling and storage of dry, slip coated squares. I
cannot envision how this can be done without adding considerable dust to the
environment.

Vince Pitelka on thu 17 jun 04


The idea of using canvas squares as bats is very attractive but I have
concerns around their use on a large scale in a school environment. Part of
the process requires handling and storage of dry, slip coated squares. I
cannot envision how this can be done without adding considerable dust to the
environment.

Linda -
There is no dust associated with this process. You would have to take a dry
slip-coated square and really flap the hell out of it against something hard
in order to produce any dust at all. Once they are dry I just store them in
piles, and again, there simply is no dust problem.

However, drying and storing canvas squares on the scale you are talking
about might present more of a problem. I still don't think it is a dust
issue. If your studio environment is humid, then it could be difficult to
get them dry. If your studio environment is dry, then I think simple wire
racks, like bread racks, would do the trick nicely. They do need to be dry
before they are used again.
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
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http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/