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crystalline; more design discussion.

updated wed 16 jun 04


Antoinette Badenhorst on mon 14 jun 04

This subject about crystalline went beyond my expectations. Thanks for
seeing the opportunity to take it one step further than just looking. I
wish that we can do that with other forms, styles etc. I've discussed
mugs; their shapes and their handles and function with my students this
morning and I've realized there are so many mugs out there and probably
90% of them are badly designed or just "happened". The same thing can
probably be said about anything else that is made on a wheel (or by
I had 2 mugs in my studio this morning that have thick rims. The one was
made locally(cylinder with a ripple wall, almost a loop for a handle and
glazed in two bright colors) and meant to be functional, the other a mug
from Peter Seabridge, suggesting function
( For the
first one I am not willing to pay $1 and for the other one I paid $30.
We discussed how the handle should fit in the hand (and there are
different preferences), how the mug should fit in the hand, how the lip
should be formed and how the coffee should stay warm and not "fall out
of the cup into ones mouth". We also discussed the esthetics of a mug
and the handle. I referred my students to Chris Schafale's website,
since there is a good collection of mugs on there right now.
I would like to get comments on this subject. What is a good designed
mug? How does it look, feel in the hand, feel on the lip etc. What is a
well designed handle?

Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS
662 869 1651

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Ivor and
Olive Lewis
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Incredible beautiful crystalline vases

Dear Carol,
Thank you for your observations. Living in a country where obesity is
approaching epidemic proportions I understand your metaphor !!!
Perhaps some of those pots have a very high "Body Mass Index".
I thing there is a consensus developing that, given careful thought
and attention to detail, it is possible to design Forms which promote
appreciation of Crystalline Glazes within the restrictions imposed by
Technical Necessity.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
Potters Council Member

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Culling on tue 15 jun 04

I would like to get comments on this subject. What is a good designed
> mug? How does it look, feel in the hand, feel on the lip etc. What is a
> well designed handle?

Hey Antoinette
good call -am trying to pas this stuff on too and am amazed at how little
thought is put into some mugs!! (I have a couple on the stay at home site of
Some comments
Too fine a lip can be rough (hard to get glaze to stay on a sharp rim ) and
chip easy
With handles - not to curve higher than the rim of the mug so as to drain
well when washed - balancing on the handle and opposite edge of rim on a
draining board is usually unstable.
Also if the handle sticks up it is more likely to get whacked on the edge of
the sink or tap
Think about how people hold their mugs too - if the handle curves out too
far, is too chunky. too broad, too close to the mug - not enough gap... it's
amazing how many ways there are to hold a mug.
And for the body shape - mine are designed mostly for busy people - wide
base (stability) , narrower top - good for caravans and car dashboards...
keeps drink hot longer too.
And my pet bugs are big bellys on a mug - have to tip your head way way back
to finish your drink!!! :o) and too wide or narrow an opening (bump your
nose on the rim or have your vision obscured!!!)
My 2cents
Northwest Western Australia - another blue day.