Earth and Fire Pottery on sun 20 jun 04
Hello!
I went around measuring my mugs today, and discovered that i make them an average of 83 mm. No rhyme of reason I can think of, except that it's appealing to my eye. They seem to be quite functional for my nose, and it was fun walking around with a yardstick taking measurements. My handless mugs at this width taper out from the top to about 90. Men seem to find this comfortable. Women have said they like them smaller. I don't have any smaller ones in stock at this moment, and will e you again with some measurements when I do. I works out to about 1/2 inch smaller. I don't know metric well, (at all really), so I'm not sure what that is.
Thanks everyone for this thread, it's been fun!
gregg
Gregg Allen Lindsley
Earth and Fire Pottery
Instructor - Mendocino College
Board Member Potters Council
Mail only: PO Box 402
Cobb, Ca. 95426
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Earl Brunner on sun 20 jun 04
On a hunch, I measured the width of my hand, (the one that forms the inside
of the mug.....) between 80 and 85mm. Hummmmm.
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
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Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:29 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: measuring mugs from tip of nose to chin
Hello!
I went around measuring my mugs today, and discovered that i make them an
average of 83 mm. No rhyme of reason I can think of, except that it's
appealing to my eye. They seem to be quite functional for my nose, and it
was fun walking around with a yardstick taking measurements. My handless
mugs at this width taper out from the top to about 90. Men seem to find
this comfortable. Women have said they like them smaller. I don't have any
smaller ones in stock at this moment, and will e you again with some
measurements when I do. I works out to about 1/2 inch smaller. I don't know
metric well, (at all really), so I'm not sure what that is.
Thanks everyone for this thread, it's been fun!
gregg
Ivor and Olive Lewis on mon 21 jun 04
Just for a laugh, flatten your palm and hold your hand with your palm
away from your face with your thumb below. Slide your thumb under your
chin and your little(pinkie) finger under your nose. How good is the
fit?.
I am not recording hand widths for the statistics.
best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Earth and Fire Pottery on tue 22 jun 04
Dear Ivor-
In all honesty, I have made my mug rims according to how it pleases my eye, and for no other reason. This is to say that the rim size was in relation first to the shape of the mug, then to the mugs size, not the other way around (that the the rims size was predetermined, and the shape and size of the mug followed accordingly).
This way of looking at the rims size is new to me, and as i said, it's fun! And it goes to show that no matter how long you've been working with clay, there is always something new to learn.
Ever since we started this thread, i've been noticing how my (big) nose fits in the mugs i use. Most of them fit, and I did find one by a friend that didn't. I will measure it later and let you know it's size.
Thanks!
gregg
Ivor and Olive Lewis wrote:
Dear Gregg Allen Lindsley,
Yes, but how do the values you give relate to the Human Form? What we are seeking is and answer to the "Why" of those values. Why do you make your mugs to those dimensions?
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Gregg Allen Lindsley
Earth and Fire Pottery
Instructor - Mendocino College
Board Member Potters Council
Mail only: PO Box 402
Cobb, Ca. 95426
UPS etc.: 10325 Brookside Drive
Whispering Pines, Ca. 95426
e mail: gerrg@yahoo.com
http://www.earthandfirepottery.net
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 22 jun 04
Hi Ivor,
Yes...works perfectly..!
( However, it would not work...for our old friend 'Mr.
Punch'...! )
Phil
el ve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivor and Olive Lewis"
> Just for a laugh, flatten your palm and hold your hand
with your palm
> away from your face with your thumb below. Slide your
thumb under your
> chin and your little(pinkie) finger under your nose. How
good is the
> fit?.
> I am not recording hand widths for the statistics.
> best regards,
> Ivor Lewis.
> Redhill,
> S. Australia.
daniel on wed 23 jun 04
Hi Ivor,
A very good fit. The proportions in the body are very interesting. Always
enjoyed geometry and proportion. Actually I initially thought you meant the
length of the little finger, which also works well enough, but I realised
what you meant, width of the fingers.
You got me thinking. I tried using my middle finger to bridge the gap from
my chin to the tip of my nose. Place the depression where the finger meets
the palm on your chin and the finger tip to the nose. The reason I tried
this is that sometimes I use that measure for the opening of a coffee mug
while throwing. It turns out that its just a little over. The ring finger is
spot on. The middle allows for shrinkage.
Thanx
D
Belmont, California, USA
(ex terra australis)
Ivor and Olive Lewis on wed 23 jun 04
Dear Gregg,
I have to admit that I work in a similar style. I make that which
gives me pleasure without considering size, be it height or width. But
I am concerned with proportion. In this vein. I always consider that
the Golden Mean gives mugs which are shorter and wider than
acceptable, unless stability is an overriding factor in the design
process.
But from the pace at which I am getting information, there will not be
enough points on the map from which to construct a statement about a
conclusive trend.
Ivor and Olive Lewis on thu 24 jun 04
Dear Daniel,
Human anatomy is a fascinating subject.
On a recent TV program Leslie Garrett, a rather delightful Diva, said
that she had been told that she had "Perfect Proportions". The length
from her ankle to the knee, from her knee to the great trochanter and
from this prominence to her shoulder were all of equal measure.
Our hands are strange as well. The relationships between the lengths
of the bones from our finger tips to the carpal bones approximate
closely to the Golden Mean.
Good to have a conversation with another Roo.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Ivor and Olive Lewis on thu 24 jun 04
There Phil,
I knew it might.
I know you can solve this problem, but I wonder how many more have the
intellect and intuition to design a pleasing mug from the clay they
use to contain a specific capacity without overfilling so that there
is no spillage, using such a personal measure and determine the mass
of clay needed, to the nearest tenth of an ounce or five grams.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Jeanette Harris on thu 24 jun 04
Ivor said:
>
>Our hands are strange as well. The relationships between the lengths
>of the bones from our finger tips to the carpal bones approximate
>closely to the Golden Mean.
Yes, and did you know that your front teeth correspond to the shape
of your face?
Also, your arms and leg correlate perfectly: Short forearm=short
calf; long shoulder to elbow=long thigh. You'll never see someone
with large hands and small feet, either.
One thing has bothered me about the mug measurement. (Though I must
admit, I haven't read the thread until recently.)
Why are you measuring the distance between the chin and the tip of
the nose? This isn't the way you drink out of mug. (Unless you have
eating dyslexia, like I do.) Why not the measurement from the lips
to the bridge of the nose? Then you'd know whether you could get your
proboscis into the mug hole.
Cheers,
--
Jeanette Harris
in Poulsbo WA
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