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updated fri 6 aug 04

 

Karen Sullivan on wed 4 aug 04


I am looking for specs to arm my
architect to present the city for
consideration of installing a kiln
inside a building I am
trying to construct....
I have a catalog from the
National Fire Prevention Association....
it's like reading the phone book...

Does anyone have a suggestion
of a source for specifications in
building a structure.

I want to use corrugated metal
for the sides of the bldg.....
a concrete floor...
I have a hood for above the kiln...
with a space of a few feet from
the damper of the updraft kiln
to the roof....

Thanks so much....
karen

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on wed 4 aug 04


Hi Karen,



- do I take it then, that this is what one might call a Kiln
Shed? Or, something larger than merely a little Building to
shelter and sequester the Kiln?


If so, either way, likely there are somewhat differing
requirements from those classes of Buildings for which Human
Occupancy, in the usual sense, is anticipated.

Whyever have an 'Architect' design so simple a Building? Or,
unless they are doing so for free...? AND have some real
experience in things as have to do with actual Buildings?
Often, they are the least practical for the task, and have
no experience having ever built anything, let alone, to care
of the costs to do so as accrue exponentially with their
inexperience and complaiscency in planning a structure...but
anyway...


At any rate...

Good anything..is hard to find...


Consider to use metal studs, a metal entry-exit Door, with
metal jambs, or possible 'two' of them depending on the
whimsy of the permits department, and what they think about
how much room there is around the Kiln proper in
there...and, possibly 5/8ths sheetrock...

The kinds of ventilation the Building will have - as, the
'Hood'? - or possibly additional lower, base screened vents
or eve or soffit vents as well...might be asked for..

Gas Kiln? Electric Kiln?

What kind of Roof do you intend it to have? Shed Roof ?(
that is, 'approximately flat with a slight pitch..) or a
Hipped roof? Or?

Does it snow much in your area? The Roof (and or the kind of
Roof) should anticipate the weight of being loaded with
maximum possible snow, if it does...

How big a building is this to be?


The distance it is from existing structures also will be of
import...


Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Sullivan"

> I am looking for specs to arm my
> architect to present the city for
> consideration of installing a kiln
> inside a building I am
> trying to construct....
> I have a catalog from the
> National Fire Prevention Association....
> it's like reading the phone book...
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion
> of a source for specifications in
> building a structure.
>
> I want to use corrugated metal
> for the sides of the bldg.....
> a concrete floor...
> I have a hood for above the kiln...
> with a space of a few feet from
> the damper of the updraft kiln
> to the roof....
>
> Thanks so much....
> karen

Mike Gordon on thu 5 aug 04


Karen,
I have the same set up for my kiln shed, but one side is completely
open, with wood rafters, metal roof.There is a cinder block wall on 2
sides 3' tall. I live on a hill and the cinder block wall is on the
uphill side. There is also a 12" gap all around on 3 sides , between
the walls and roof. Plenty of air movement. I fire to C/6-7 and have
squirted water from a squirt gun on the hood at peak temp and only get
a little steam, I've felt the rafters around the chimney also and they
are no hotter than than they wood be if they were out in the sun on a
hot day. It looks like you are on the right track. Mike Gordon
On Aug 4, 2004, at 8:15 PM, Karen Sullivan wrote:

> I am looking for specs to arm my
> architect to present the city for
> consideration of installing a kiln
> inside a building I am
> trying to construct....
> I have a catalog from the
> National Fire Prevention Association....
> it's like reading the phone book...
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion
> of a source for specifications in
> building a structure.
>
> I want to use corrugated metal
> for the sides of the bldg.....
> a concrete floor...
> I have a hood for above the kiln...
> with a space of a few feet from
> the damper of the updraft kiln
> to the roof....
>
> Thanks so much....
> karen
>
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Earl Krueger on thu 5 aug 04


And add plenty of, what around here are
called, "Roof Jacks" or a ridge ventilator
to allow the heat trapped in the "attic"
space a means to escape.

Inspectors love them.

Earl K...
Bothell, WA, USA

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 5 aug 04


Hi Karen, all...



Where this structure will be, in terms of the pecularitues
of the City or municipality or County codes, zoneing,
neighborhood and so on, if not as well, moreso, the
interpretation of those codes by various personell...whether
it is merely a simple open sided 'cover' or whether it is an
actual enclosed Building, and how close it is to other
structures...all play a significant role in the approval one
may recieve for the design and the construction of it.

'Here', there is no logical expectation possible for making
any sort of honest snug little building for anything, let
alone for a kiln, or not if one wants to have the approval
of various busybodies hell bent on justifying their
interference with you on whatever pretext they can manage.

It would likey take a year just for the permits to go
through, if they were going to let you do it at all, let
alone the many thousands of dollars the officially stamped
engineering drawings and so on...


This will vary from place to place...

The term 'building specs' is very broad...and will be
obliged to defer to the requirements of localle, so...the
design itself in other terms, is not necessarily enough so
far as potential permits and their particulars...

I am in a run down slum of a commercial area.

My neighbor, across the street who does automobile repair,
wanted to also do touch-ups on fenders, and, wishing to be
right-with-the-law, undertook to have a little spray Booth
to do so in even though the only paints he will use are the
modern water norne whatevers as are not flamible...

Two years, and $240.000 ( Two hundred and fourty thousand
dollars) later...he is doing the occasional 'touch up'.


Where, he cold have just been doing the little touch
ups...or done them in the Garage Bays which he already had.

One thing led to another...endless permits, huge ten inch
Water Mains and large drains being installed, huge eighteen
foot cinder block fire-walls between him and his neighbors -
all sorts of things for 'fire' safety, even though he will
only use paints as will not burn...and just do the
occasional 'touch-up' of a fender or other...

Anyway...

Insane...

He is in debt to where all the money he can make will never
be enough...he is never going to live long enough to get
ahead.

But that's the way it is here...if you want to 'do'
anything...


Phil
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