Karen Sullivan on thu 5 aug 04
Phil....
Many thanks for your input regarding
my building question...
I guess I am learning several things about
this heroic project....
I am trying to build a structure to place
my updraft kilns into...so on windy days....
or in the rain....I can fire without
being in the elements....
I live in an older neighborhood....
the building would go on the back corner
of my lot...I could hide the building
with bamboo...other plants...
I think the challenge is that no one
wants to step up with approval due
to liability issues...the city is
tough because they have a specific
agenda regarding the style of the
buildings...they want any addition to
look exactly like the existing structures...
so it would be as though I were firing a
kiln in the same building as my kitchen...
I feel beat down at the moment...
so...thanks for your perspective....
I think I have found someone who will
provide the info for an inspection...
so he can perhaps give us the details...
a written format....
a paper document of specifications is what
the city is asking for...
This seems to me to be a huge hole in the
information floating around the ceramic
community....that would help in the
creation of work space for potters....
karen
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 6 aug 04
Hi Karen,
Most of my experience is from rather more than a decade ago,
when I was still an independant Carpenter who sometimes
built small Buildings and did other things, who did so with
or without 'permits' and so on...who bullshitted and bluffed
and investigated definitions and codes without blushing, as
need be, to shut 'em the hell up and let me get my Work
done, and, who allways got very nice compliments and hand
written notes tacked to things from the Building Inspectors,
even when they caught me building without a Permit ( and
advised me to get one) ...and, since then, I hear almost
nothing but horror stories on all fronts, at least 'here' in
sunny Las Vegas, anyway...
Today's Post by D. Michael Coffee offers an excellent
Ace-in-the-hole to keep handy. Print it out and save it...
One possibility too, is to realize your intention in stages,
where, initially, you wish say to get permits for, and to
build a 'Garage' in which to keep a Vehicle or an R-V or
something and to keep Garening Tools and so on in , and to
have a 'potting bench' for transplanting 'ornamentals' or
whatever...and, of course, you wish to have such plumbing
stub-outs as allow you to have a Laundry Sink and Gas or
Propane for running a Washer and Gas Drier someday...and or
to have a Gas Water Heater in there for hot water when you
want to wash up.
Later, changing your mind as is your privelege to do, you
elect instead to have the Building be for your Ceramic
Hobby...
etc...
Angles...strategy...learning about what they need, or need
to hear, or learning about how one thing is the same or
different from something else...or if the way seems
straightforward, go for the gusto as for a Pottery Hobby
Studio straight away...
Find out as may times as it takes of asking, and of asking
different people ( whose names and phone numbers and
extentions you retain in your dated notes) in the building
department, the particulars for variations of these
themes...how they define what...allways let them know you
need their help so you know what to do...let them tell you.
If they catch on you have been talking to numerous of them,
say you lost previous notes and had to begin anew...see how
the answers are similar or different...
So far as the appearance needing to match existing
Architecture...as some homeowner's association thing, that
can be easy enough to do or have done...IF the same
association will even let you have a 'hobby' Kiln, which do
see about...as above...
And a 'Garage' now-a-days needs 5/8ths sheetrock anyway, and
a sloped floor...so...that should be allrighty enough for
when it 'later' on, becomes a Ceramic Studio...if that angle
seems recommended...
By the time you are done...you will be able to write a nice
Primer...
Yours,
Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Sullivan"
> Phil....
>
> Many thanks for your input regarding
> my building question...
> I guess I am learning several things about
> this heroic project....
> I am trying to build a structure to place
> my updraft kilns into...so on windy days....
> or in the rain....I can fire without
> being in the elements....
> I live in an older neighborhood....
> the building would go on the back corner
> of my lot...I could hide the building
> with bamboo...other plants...
> I think the challenge is that no one
> wants to step up with approval due
> to liability issues...the city is
> tough because they have a specific
> agenda regarding the style of the
> buildings...they want any addition to
> look exactly like the existing structures...
> so it would be as though I were firing a
> kiln in the same building as my kitchen...
>
> I feel beat down at the moment...
> so...thanks for your perspective....
> I think I have found someone who will
> provide the info for an inspection...
> so he can perhaps give us the details...
> a written format....
> a paper document of specifications is what
> the city is asking for...
> This seems to me to be a huge hole in the
> information floating around the ceramic
> community....that would help in the
> creation of work space for potters....
> karen
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