Weiland, Jeff on tue 10 aug 04
Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo =
area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is =
wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and =
materials. Does anybody out there in cyber-land know of a =
supplier/distributor that is relatively close. Most studios/schools =
that I saw there this summer used home-rigged kick wheels, simple tools, =
and bottle-type wood kilns. Basic but needing a knowledge boost. Much of =
the earthenware I saw was underfired and then painted with whatever was =
available. Looks good but has serious health problems. Because of =
shipping costs, she really needs to find a local supplier.
Jeff Weiland
Greenfield-Central High School
810 North Broadway
Greenfield, Indiana 46140
317-462-9211
jweiland@gcsc.k12.in.us
Arnold Howard on tue 10 aug 04
From: "Weiland, Jeff"
Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo
area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is
wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and
materials.
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Cynthia Bracker on tue 10 aug 04
S/he might try AFP de Figueiredo in Sao Paulo. Phone number is
55-11-5181-5000 website is http://www.artehobby.com.br
However, your relative should keep in mind that the overall price will
not be much different to buy from a local source than to buy it from a
US supplier and import it. For most items, the local source will have
imported it and will need to recoup the import taxes and fees they
incurred. It may be worth it to not have to deal with the hassles of
importing, but only if the service from the local place is good. If the
local supplier is not helpful, consider importing from a US source,
however make sure the US Supplier understands export procedures and
knows how to properly fill out the paperwork. Ask if they are familiar
with "Harmon Codes" or "Harmonized Schedule Tariff Numbers" Properly
filled out paperwork and use of Harmon Codes dramatically expedites
customs clearance!
I've also heard that NAFTA may be expanding to include South America in
the near future which would dramatically decrease the costs of
importing. You might mention that as well! Good luck!
Cindy Bracker
Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc.
Weiland, Jeff wrote:
>Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and materials. Does anybody out there in cyber-land know of a supplier/distributor that is relatively close. Most studios/schools that I saw there this summer used home-rigged kick wheels, simple tools, and bottle-type wood kilns. Basic but needing a knowledge boost. Much of the earthenware I saw was underfired and then painted with whatever was available. Looks good but has serious health problems. Because of shipping costs, she really needs to find a local supplier.
>
>Jeff Weiland
>Greenfield-Central High School
>810 North Broadway
>Greenfield, Indiana 46140
>317-462-9211
>jweiland@gcsc.k12.in.us
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Edouard Bastarache Inc. on tue 10 aug 04
Eric Poschmann
PSH-BRASIL
rua Cayowaa, 1113
Perdizes
São Paulo, SP 05018-001
Brasil
"Ils sont fous ces quebecois"
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Steve Slatin on tue 10 aug 04
Jeff -
I haven't been in S.P. for 20 years, but while I was there I found all manner of
art materials. It was sometimes difficult to find the places that sold things,
so I developed a friendship with the owners of an art gallery on Alameda Lorena
(at the corner of Rua Padre Joao Manuel, It's almost certainly not there
any more) and when I wanted something I'd drop in and describe it to them;
they'd call one of their artists who worked in an appropriate media and
find out what was available and where to get it.
Some things change rapidly, but I'd suspect that the Brasilian 'jeito' is
still the only way to find things out.
Good luck to her -- Steve Slatin
"Weiland, Jeff" wrote:
Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and materials.
Steve Slatin -- Entry-level potter, journeyman loafer, master obfuscator
Sequim, Washington, USA
48.0937°N, 123.1465°W or thereabouts
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RubiaM&M on tue 10 aug 04
Hello jeff
I live in são paulo and I can help its relative.
We have good shops here, inclusive to psh of the canada.
In the day 16 we go have a congress of ceramica, and I find that would
be good its relative participate.
Please, piece for he enter in contact with me
fone 11-5093-9096
I await it called.
rubia moraes
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>Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and materials. Does anybody out there in cyber-land know of a supplier/distributor that is relatively close. Most studios/schools that I saw there this summer used home-rigged kick wheels, simple tools, and bottle-type wood kilns. Basic but needing a knowledge boost. Much of the earthenware I saw was underfired and then painted with whatever was available. Looks good but has serious health problems. Because of shipping costs, she really needs to find a local supplier.
>
>Jeff Weiland
>Greenfield-Central High School
>810 North Broadway
>Greenfield, Indiana 46140
>317-462-9211
>jweiland@gcsc.k12.in.us
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Patricia Ramirez on tue 10 aug 04
Hello,
Talking about the supplier/distributor I would like to mention that In USA,
Canada and others countries it is very common to find potters supplies
stores but in South America, there are countries like Brazil or Colombia
where it is impossible to buy tools and potter equipment. Bogotá is a city
with more than 9 million habitants, and I cannot find a wheel. I have to
import it from Miami.
I would suggest that potters supplier/distributor people think about the
possibility to start sales in this side of yhe word. Perhaps at the
beginning won't be a big market, but if we want to increase it, first we
have to create it.
Patricia.
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De: Weiland, Jeff
Para:
Enviado: Martes, 10 de Agosto de 2004 11:58 a.m.
Asunto: international suppliers
Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo
area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is
wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and
materials. Does anybody out there in cyber-land know of a
supplier/distributor that is relatively close. Most studios/schools that I
saw there this summer used home-rigged kick wheels, simple tools, and
bottle-type wood kilns. Basic but needing a knowledge boost. Much of the
earthenware I saw was underfired and then painted with whatever was
available. Looks good but has serious health problems. Because of shipping
costs, she really needs to find a local supplier.
Jeff Weiland
Greenfield-Central High School
810 North Broadway
Greenfield, Indiana 46140
317-462-9211
jweiland@gcsc.k12.in.us
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Steve Slatin on wed 11 aug 04
Rubia --
I'm glad to hear that things are easier now than they were -- the
protective tarrifs of 20 years ago were a real problem. I remember
some people made a living smuggling replacement power supplies
for Radio Shack computers and things like that.
I wasn't doing pottery 20 years ago, but remember clearly going
downtown near the railway station to get electrical parts,
and out rua Radium way to get metal-working supplies. I once
spent about a week trying to get a wire wrap tool, not speaking
much Portugese and just wandering -- finally discovered that
the way to describe it was "ENROLLADOR DE FIO, 'WIRE
WRAP'" I will no doubt remember that fact the day that I die.
All those headaches were as big a drag on the Brasilian
economy as they were on my personal activities. I suppose
the other side of it is that it demanded lots of creativity. As
always, change destroys as many things as it improves; one
only hopes that it improves the more important things.
I still have 'saudades' but will probably never visit S.P. again.
At this point, after more than 20 years, it'd be a ghost town
to me anyway -- everything different and no familiar people;
no comfort. I've learned not to try to return to certain kinds
of places.
Best wishes, and thanks for the memories -- Steve Slatin
RubiaM&M wrote:
hello steve. T
he Brazil moved a lot in those 20 years, today we have boas marks
national and imported.
To psh, amaco, estao in the Brazil.
Everybody the shops of stuff has site in the internet, believe that is
not more difficult buy matter cousin for any artist in the Brazil.
we are not ecessary more use of little skills.
When the peter callas was here in são paulo, he liked a lot of the
tornos national that he used and our clays also they went a lot praised
by him. The japao also ja saw our clay burned, and she went a lot
appreciated. case needs to stuff of the Brazil or of some information,
I put me the arrangement.
Best regards
rúbia moraes
http://fotos.terra.com.br/album.cgi/475962
http://fotos.terra.com.br/album.cgi/541804
>Jeff -
>
>I haven't been in S.P. for 20 years, but while I was there I found all manner of
>art materials. It was sometimes difficult to find the places that sold things,
>so I developed a friendship with the owners of an art gallery on Alameda Lorena
>(at the corner of Rua Padre Joao Manuel, It's almost certainly not there
>any more) and when I wanted something I'd drop in and describe it to them;
>they'd call one of their artists who worked in an appropriate media and
>find out what was available and where to get it.
>
>Some things change rapidly, but I'd suspect that the Brasilian 'jeito' is
>still the only way to find things out.
>
>Good luck to her -- Steve Slatin
>
>"Weiland, Jeff" wrote:
>Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and materials.
>
>Steve Slatin -- Entry-level potter, journeyman loafer, master obfuscator
> Sequim, Washington, USA
> 48.0937°N, 123.1465°W or thereabouts
>
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RubiaM&M on wed 11 aug 04
hello steve. T
he Brazil moved a lot in those 20 years, today we have boas marks
national and imported.
To psh, amaco, estao in the Brazil.
Everybody the shops of stuff has site in the internet, believe that is
not more difficult buy matter cousin for any artist in the Brazil.
we are not ecessary more use of little skills.
When the peter callas was here in são paulo, he liked a lot of the
tornos national that he used and our clays also they went a lot praised
by him. The japao also ja saw our clay burned, and she went a lot
appreciated. case needs to stuff of the Brazil or of some information,
I put me the arrangement.
Best regards
rúbia moraes
http://fotos.terra.com.br/album.cgi/475962
http://fotos.terra.com.br/album.cgi/541804
>Jeff -
>
>I haven't been in S.P. for 20 years, but while I was there I found all manner of
>art materials. It was sometimes difficult to find the places that sold things,
>so I developed a friendship with the owners of an art gallery on Alameda Lorena
>(at the corner of Rua Padre Joao Manuel, It's almost certainly not there
>any more) and when I wanted something I'd drop in and describe it to them;
>they'd call one of their artists who worked in an appropriate media and
>find out what was available and where to get it.
>
>Some things change rapidly, but I'd suspect that the Brasilian 'jeito' is
>still the only way to find things out.
>
>Good luck to her -- Steve Slatin
>
>"Weiland, Jeff" wrote:
>Here is the question: I have a young relative who lives in the Sao Paulo area of Brazil, South America, is learning to work with ceramics, and is wanting to find a supplier where she can get tools, equipment, and materials.
>
>Steve Slatin -- Entry-level potter, journeyman loafer, master obfuscator
> Sequim, Washington, USA
> 48.0937°N, 123.1465°W or thereabouts
>
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