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mastering cone 6 glazes?

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Randy McCall on tue 24 aug 04


Can someone give me a volume amount of water to add to the MC6G's. I =
usually like to mix either 1000 or 2000 grams at the time.

How many cups of water per 1000 grams is what I am asking? I am wanting =
to try to get some consistency with these glazes.

Also how many coats per piece per type glaze gets the best coverage =
without overdoing it?

Variegated Slate Blue =20
Oatmeal =20
Field Mouse Brown =20
Bone =20
Raw Sienna
Powder Blue
Clear Powder Blue
Variegate Blue
Bright Sky Blue
Licorice=20
Caribbean Sea Green
Waterfall Brown
Maiolica
Spearmint =20

I have been testing but am having trouble getting my application =
coatings right.

I usually pour on the inside of vessels but like to brush the outside.

Really appreciate any help.

Randy McCall

Maid O'Mud on tue 24 aug 04


I use 90% water to mix my MC6G (90ml/100 g of dry glaze). As for coats, 2-3
brushed coats works - but I prefer to syringe smaller areas for deeper
coverage. NB these are flat tiles, not vertical surfaces.

Sam Cuttell
Maid O'Mud Pottery
RR 1
Melbourne, Ontario
N0L 1T0
CANADA

"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy McCall"

Can someone give me a volume amount of water to add to the MC6G's. I
usually like to mix either 1000 or 2000 grams at the time.

How many cups of water per 1000 grams is what I am asking? I am wanting to
try to get some consistency with these glazes.
Also how many coats per piece per type glaze gets the best coverage without
overdoing it?



Mike Gordon on tue 24 aug 04


Randy,
I would start out by glazing the inside first by pouring the glaze in
and sloshing it around and then pouring it out. Do it efficiently not
to fast , be sure to get an even coat.Rotate the pot while pouring the
glaze out. Then I would pour the glaze on the outside Not, brush it on.
It's difficult to get an even coat while brushing glaze unless it was
formulated to be brushed.Either mix enough glaze to dip you pots in or
hold it by the foot and rotate it while you pour with the other hand
using a cup or ladel. Mike Gordon
On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Randy McCall wrote:

> Can someone give me a volume amount of water to add to the MC6G's. I
> usually like to mix either 1000 or 2000 grams at the time.
>
> How many cups of water per 1000 grams is what I am asking? I am
> wanting to try to get some consistency with these glazes.
>
> Also how many coats per piece per type glaze gets the best coverage
> without overdoing it?
>
> Variegated Slate Blue
> Oatmeal
> Field Mouse Brown
> Bone
> Raw Sienna
> Powder Blue
> Clear Powder Blue
> Variegate Blue
> Bright Sky Blue
> Licorice
> Caribbean Sea Green
> Waterfall Brown
> Maiolica
> Spearmint
>
> I have been testing but am having trouble getting my application
> coatings right.
>
> I usually pour on the inside of vessels but like to brush the outside.
>
> Really appreciate any help.
>
> Randy McCall
>
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Alisa Liskin Clausen on thu 26 aug 04


>
>How many cups of water per 1000 grams is what I am asking? I am wanting
to try to get some consistency with these glazes.
>
>Also how many coats per piece per type glaze gets the best coverage
without overdoing it?
>

Dear Randy,
There is no one answer to your question.

I hope you have read the entire book and reread the parts that are new to
you. It is noted in the text that some of the glazes favor a thinner
application than the others. How many coats, depends on many variables,
such as your desired outcome, your clay and it's grogg content, your firing
ramps, etc.

Although people will want to be helpful of course and tell you what works
for them, you really need to do the work yourself, and test the glazes to
see the effects you get. Consistency will come will practice and
experience.

best regards from Alisa in Denmark

Ron Roy on thu 26 aug 04


Hi Randy,

We have some information on application thickness in our book - see page 26.

Application thickness is important for most glazes - if you can find a way
to get it right you will be a much happier potter.

Here is a method that will help.

For every glaze you use make two tiles of each clay you use.

Take a cup of each glaze and thin it down a bit so that a double dip gives
a "normal" thickness of glaze when a tile is dipped in for 3 seconds.

Glaze two tiles of each clay you use in each glaze you use - one dip
on most of the tile - wait for the glaze to dry enough (not completely)
then dip again covering 2/3 of the tile - let dry enough again so the third
dip will take more glaze on the last 1/3 of the tile.

You now have two tiles of each clay you use - with a single, double and
triple coat of each glaze you use.

Scratch through the glaze on one tile and fire the other one.

When you have the fired tiles you can now see - how thick the glaze has
to be to get the results you want by looking at the scratched tile - and
seeing how thick the glaze should be.

Now - when you start glazing - if you dip a tile in the glaze you are using
(after you have stirred it up) you can scratch through the glaze and compare
the thickness to your unfired glaze tile.

If the glaze is too thick - add water. If it's too thin you need to wait a day
and take some water off the glaze.

The best way to start - when glazing - is too take some water off before
you stir the glaze - and add it back in as needed - then add more water if
it's still too thick.

RR


>Can someone give me a volume amount of water to add to the MC6G's. I
>usually like to mix either 1000 or 2000 grams at the time.
>
>How many cups of water per 1000 grams is what I am asking? I am wanting
>to try to get some consistency with these glazes.
>
>Also how many coats per piece per type glaze gets the best coverage
>without overdoing it?
>
>Variegated Slate Blue
>Oatmeal
>Field Mouse Brown
>Bone
>Raw Sienna
>Powder Blue
>Clear Powder Blue
>Variegate Blue
>Bright Sky Blue
>Licorice
>Caribbean Sea Green
>Waterfall Brown
>Maiolica
>Spearmint
>
>I have been testing but am having trouble getting my application coatings
>right.
>I usually pour on the inside of vessels but like to brush the outside.
>Really appreciate any help.
>Randy McCall

Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Phone: 613-475-9544
Fax: 613-475-3513

Snail Scott on thu 26 aug 04


At 06:06 PM 8/24/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Can someone give me a volume amount of water to add to the MC6G's...
>I usually pour on the inside of vessels but like to brush the outside...
>I have been testing but am having trouble getting my application coatings
right.



Glazes mixed for brushing should be thicker
than those used for dipping or pouring, so
if you plan to continue this method, you
will need to keep two batches for best results.

If you are brushing, then the consistency
of the glaze (amount of water) is much less
important than your brushing technique.
Getting the coating even is important, so
pick a starting point and cover the whole
piece methodically, then go over it again and
again. I like to use a different brushing
pattern for each coat, to avoid getting the
same spots thick or thin each time. The
biggest problem most people have with brushed
glazes is getting the glaze coat thick enough,
though. It can be hard to judge how much the
glaze layer has built up, so try scratching
it to see the depth, and compare that to the
depth of a dipped sample. If you're not sure
of the evenness of the coating, scratch more
than one spot.

-Snail Scott

Randy McCall on fri 27 aug 04


Thanks I had missed that piece in the book. That will give me a real =
starting point for giving me some consistency.

Randy
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