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art for students

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Kate Johnson on fri 27 aug 04


This IS a frustrating situation, isn't it? Here's how it is in my
town...the school wanted to hire a part time art teacher and a part time
science teacher (at least it IS in addition to the regular ones)--the
science teacher they wanted preferred a full time job, so they said "how
about you be the art teacher, then, too?" He agreed.

However, he has NO training in art, he is not an artist, but oh, what the
heck, it's only art, right?? So if the kids ask "how do I throw a pot, how
hot do I fire this, how long do acrylics take to dry, can I layer this
collage with that, how does the welder work," the answer is pretty much "I
don't know."

Auuuuuugh.

We're also planning a very small film class. We can't have the 4-5 parking
places needed on the nights preferred, though, because there is a football
game that night, and we have a big, brand new, huge stadium on the other
side of the complex.

Right.

siiiiiigh...pushing a boulder uphill here...

Best--
Kate

Antoinette Badenhorst on fri 27 aug 04


Oho Kate I feel your frustration. If they just know what they not only
do to your children, but to your community. I've heard a commercial
yesterday "America for the arts" I think they have a website. I did not
try to find it yet, but maybe that is a move in the right direction.
Maybe someone can make the teacher aware of the grants available from
arts commissions. Maybe he can get artists in to come help him. Hope
your film class go off well.

Antoinette Badenhorst
105 Westwood Circle
Saltillo MS
38866
662 869 1651
www.clayandcanvas.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Kate
Johnson
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:02 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: art for students

This IS a frustrating situation, isn't it? Here's how it is in my
town...the school wanted to hire a part time art teacher and a part time
science teacher (at least it IS in addition to the regular ones)--the
science teacher they wanted preferred a full time job, so they said "how
about you be the art teacher, then, too?" He agreed.

However, he has NO training in art, he is not an artist, but oh, what
the
heck, it's only art, right?? So if the kids ask "how do I throw a pot,
how
hot do I fire this, how long do acrylics take to dry, can I layer this
collage with that, how does the welder work," the answer is pretty much
"I
don't know."

Auuuuuugh.

We're also planning a very small film class. We can't have the 4-5
parking
places needed on the nights preferred, though, because there is a
football
game that night, and we have a big, brand new, huge stadium on the other
side of the complex.

Right.

siiiiiigh...pushing a boulder uphill here...

Best--
Kate

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Kate Johnson on sat 28 aug 04


.
> If the person you describe is willing to teach art and also a willing
> learner then he or she will truly share the sense of discovery
> experienced by the children.

I'll hold that positive thought, Ivor! I understand he IS now taking a
pottery class, so that's good news...

Best--
Kate

Ivor and Olive Lewis on sat 28 aug 04


Dear Kate Johnson,
In some educational jurisdictions completion of a course of study at
School is sufficient qualification to teach the subject, even if the
teacher failed that course provided the selected person is accepted as
a qualified teacher.
If the person you describe is willing to teach art and also a willing
learner then he or she will truly share the sense of discovery
experienced by the children.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.



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Ivor and Olive Lewis on sun 29 aug 04


Dear Kate,
I entered Teachers College (UK) as a mature Student. It was my wish to
be an Art Teacher but I was advised that this would be a bad choice
because, those who were trained artists were given preference in
secondary schools. So I chose one of the Sciences as a Main subject
and Art as a Subsid. This was regarded as unconventional. My choice
should have been a Maths Subsid. My last posting in Australia, lasting
ten years, was as a Specialist Art teacher in a rural R-!2 school.
Prior to that I was a Science Maths teacher who filled gaps in the Art
Faculty program. It can be done by people with open minds.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Kate Johnson"
To:
Sent: Sunday, 29 August 2004 11:43
Subject: Re: art for students


> .
> > If the person you describe is willing to teach art and also a
willing
> > learner then he or she will truly share the sense of discovery
> > experienced by the children.
>
> I'll hold that positive thought, Ivor! I understand he IS now
taking a
> pottery class, so that's good news...
>
> Best--
> Kate
>
>
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