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kids as artists, or worker bees.

updated fri 3 sep 04

 

lela martens on tue 31 aug 04


Yes, Steve, I see what you mean now...frustrating. And worrisome.
I found myself having to call social services some years ago...the kids were
younger.
The oldest, 6 years,was the four younger`s care giver. I didn`t see the
parents around much. The last straw was when I saw the baby, about 10 months
old sitting on a snow drift beside the road.
Social services reported back later that they had been giving the parents
`parenting classes`, but moved away a couple of weeks later.
I am in agreement with Jeff that a case worker should be called.

I came across this quote, more along the line I was intending.

`Every maker of video games knows something that the makers of curriculum
don`t seem to understand. You`ll never see a video game advertised as being
easy. Kids who do not like school will tell you it`s not because it is too
hard. It`s because it`s --boring.`
Seymour Papert professor of educational research, Massachusetts institute of
technology.

Good luck with the neighbours, Lela

Ivor and Olive Lewis on wed 1 sep 04


Dear Lela Martens,
And think of the remuneration given to the compilers of Video and
Computer games. Makes a teachers salary look like chicken scratch.
If every step and process along the way in a child's education was
perfect. No interruptions, no disturbances,100% achievement at every
step, no necessity for repetition, seamless interlinking from class to
class and from school to school, then children would seldom be bored.
But that could never happen, nor would "The System" allow it to happen
!!
Now tell me. Is Parenting Education a need for adolescent learners.
Should "Driver Education" be compulsory from the age of 16. Both could
save lives. Both are more important that art or maths. You may never
wish to become an artist or a mathematician but sure as night follows
day you are going to require skills and knowledge for the other two
processes.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
.

Sam or Mary Yancy on wed 1 sep 04


In this state - no driver ed - no licence, sam in daly city calif.


Ivor and Olive Lewis wrote:
Now tell me. Is Parenting Education a need for adolescent learners.
Should "Driver Education" be compulsory from the age of 16. Both could
save lives. Both are more important that art or maths. You may never
wish to become an artist or a mathematician but sure as night follows
day you are going to require skills and knowledge for the other two
processes.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
.

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lela martens on thu 2 sep 04


Dear Ivor, Kelly and all,

I agree with you both, as well as Tony`s ,Mel`s and other`s opinions
written in the past.
Young children`s minds are soaking up information, attitudes, the whole
spectrum of their surrounds at phenominal rates. Each one different.
Education..They should have it all.
They need the time to watch the grass grow,to be allowed the time to ponder,
study, play in the mud.
Sometimes structured, sometimes not.



>Is Parenting Education a need for adolescent learners.
>Should "Driver Education" be compulsory from the age of 16. Both could
>save lives. Both are more important that art or maths. You may never
>wish to become an artist or a mathematician but sure as night follows
>day you are going to require skills and knowledge for the other two
>processes.
>Best regards,
>Ivor Lewis.
>Redhill,
>S. Australia
Yup. In the perfect world that I conjure up in my head, Life Skills are
taught from the beginning. Cooking, relationship skills, changing a tire,
how what you say and do can affect others, why it isn`t a good idea to spend
more than the income, what might be more interesting than hanging around the
mall Friday evening..on and on..at home,school and in between.
In that world people having children would first understand at least some of
the responsiblity of it..They would ask themselves if they are willing and
prepared to make the commitment. Why do they have children? What really are
their priorities? They would really THINK about it.
Our north american `Theys` say Children are our greatest asset, our most
important resource... Like commodities... But if young people are so
important, `They` aren`t doing well at proving it to me.
Thanks for the opportunity to express a fraction of my opinion.
Best wishes from Lela, on the prairies where the leaves are starting to
turn.
On topic cause I refered to mud....
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on thu 2 sep 04


Yes Sam,
But is that a compulsory subject in the school curriculum or is driver
education in the hands of private enterprise.
I am suggesting that it should be compulsory in the High School
Curriculum.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.