Llewellyn Kouba on fri 3 sep 04
Readers:
I recently acquired 50# of Albany slip from a Potter nearby who moved out
to California. I have never seen nor used Albany previously and would like
to know if someone would care to share a 'best use' for it. I fire
Reduction to cone 9-10 range normally but can do other firings as well. I
would imagine I would get the most for my bucks though by making up a slip
rather than a glaze. A slip would last longest and waste the least
amount. Any ideas on a good formulae so I can proceed to enjoy my new
found treasure.
Llewellyn Kouba
Abbey Pottery
Kathi LeSueur on fri 3 sep 04
lkouba@ASSUMPTIONABBEY.COM wrote:
> Readers:
>
> I recently acquired 50# of Albany slip from a Potter nearby who moved out
> to California. I have never seen nor used Albany previously and would
> like
> to know if someone would care to share a 'best use' for it. I fire
> Reduction to cone 9-10 range normally but can do other firings as well.
You just aquired 50# of glaze gold. It is a glaze all by itself at cone
10. Add 10% cobalt carb and you get an incredible black glaze. Or use
that to do blue brushwork over other glazes. Add iron and rutile for
beautiful browns. Just experiment adding colorants to it. Put it on pots
by itself or use it to decorate.
Oh that someone would start mining the real stuff again.
Kathi
Marcia Selsor on fri 3 sep 04
Add 50% wood ash and get a nice golden matt glaze.
Marcia Selsor
John Britt on fri 3 sep 04
Kathi,
You can still buy it! See the back of Ceramics Monthly - in every issue
it is listed.
Great stuff,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Gary Navarre on sat 4 sep 04
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Subject: Albany Slip how to
From: "Llewellyn Kouba"
Date: Fri, September 3, 2004 1:55 pm
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
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Readers:
I recently acquired 50# of Albany slip from a Potter nearby who moved out
to California. I have never seen nor used Albany previously and would
like to know if someone would care to share a 'best use' for it. I fire
Reduction to cone 9-10 range normally but can do other firings as well. I
would imagine I would get the most for my bucks though by making up a slip
rather than a glaze. A slip would last longest and waste the least amount.
Any ideas on a good formulae so I can proceed to enjoy my new found
treasure.
Llewellyn Kouba
Abbey Pottery
Llewellyn and Crew,
From one of the horses mouth, Danial Rhodes "Clay and Glazes for the
Potter" 1957, p. 186-87.
"Slip glazes are glazes which are made wholly or largely from clays of
low fusion point. Most common clays, when fired to ^8 or higher, will
fuse and become fluid enough to spread over the surface of pottery as a
dark-colored glaze....Firing should be oxidizing , and the higher
temperatures of ^10 to ^12 give the best results. ...Some surface clays
from along the Hudson River.. have been found to produce perfect hair's
fur glazes without the addition of any other material. The following
combinations using Albany slip may produce mottled glazes or oil spots
when fired to ^11:
Albany slip 80
Ochre 10
Spodumene 10
Albany slip 75
Iron oxide 5
Burnt sienna 10
Feldspar 10
Slip glazes are perhaps of more interest to the potter than...The almost
uniformly brown or black color of such glazes must be used with great
sensitivity if dull results are to be avoided, and the vary best slip
glazed ware is vary subtle in character."
See if you can reference the whole of the book somewhere as he mentions
Temmoku and Hair's Fur and other antique materials. A good example of
Albany is on old electrical insulators and bean pots. It makes a nice
under glaze painting material.
Gee, I just remembered, I have a couple bags of Albany and Spodumene
still in storage downstate. Looks more and more like I need to make a
road trip but I'll wait till after Labor Day now. I can always cut more
wood while I wait.
Good luck, Hun, and study up some more before trying.
Gary Navarre
Navarre Pottery
Norway, Michigan, U.S.A.
Llewellyn Kouba on sat 4 sep 04
Thank you Kathi - as I am beginning to find out, I am going to have a lot
of super fun discovering the secrets locked up in the Albany.
Llewellyn
At 06:38 PM 9/3/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>lkouba@ASSUMPTIONABBEY.COM wrote:
>
>>Readers:
>>
>>I recently acquired 50# of Albany slip from a Potter nearby who moved out
>>to California. I have never seen nor used Albany previously and would
>>like
>>to know if someone would care to share a 'best use' for it. I fire
>>Reduction to cone 9-10 range normally but can do other firings as well.
>
>You just aquired 50# of glaze gold. It is a glaze all by itself at cone
>10. Add 10% cobalt carb and you get an incredible black glaze. Or use
>that to do blue brushwork over other glazes. Add iron and rutile for
>beautiful browns. Just experiment adding colorants to it. Put it on pots
>by itself or use it to decorate.
>
>Oh that someone would start mining the real stuff again.
>
>Kathi
>
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Llewellyn Kouba on sat 4 sep 04
Thanks you Marcia. It is always nice to see your name pop up over and over
on Clayart. One of the few names that I can actually put a face to since I
have had the good fortune to meet you. Was it MSU majolica workshop I
think. From time to time I try and get a hold of Rosalie Wyncoup too but
she is hard to find. I am just getting back to a load of Terra cotta and
majolica after a long hiatus from that.
Llewellyn
At 07:22 PM 9/3/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Add 50% wood ash and get a nice golden matt glaze.
>Marcia Selsor
>
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Snail Scott on sat 4 sep 04
At 12:55 PM 9/3/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>I recently acquired 50# of Albany slip...I
>would imagine I would get the most for my bucks though by making up a slip
>rather than a glaze...A slip would last longest and waste the least amount.
I'm not following the intent of this statement.
What do you mean by 'slip' in this context? A
non-vitreous surface coating? Albany slip is
a glaze all by itself at ^10. Using it 'straight'
as a glaze would utilize more of the material
per pot than using it as just part of a recipe
containing other materials, whether that
recipe is for a glaze or a (non-vitreous) slip
or engobe. The more you admix it with other
materials, the longer it will last, but this
will also dilute the special qualities of the
original Albany slip - one of the substitute
materials might do as well in that case. Of
course, if continuing beyond this one-time
windfall is your intention, then a recipe in
which another material could be substituted
might be preferable. That seens like a waste
of this rare opportunity, though.
-Snail Scott
Kathy McDonald on sun 5 sep 04
Llewellyn,
I envy your 50 pounds.
Years ago when I had access to Albany Slip
I would normally use it mixed with water to make
a " a thicker than glaze like slip", screen it,
and apply it directly to
freshly thrown pots.
Pots were then bisqued to about ^06 and then
most of the glazes I used at the time were applied over it
and fired to cone 10R.
I also used it a lot in efiring and it gave some really nice
effects on white porcelain type bodies in ^9 oxidation.
Some of the effects were wonderful.
It was particularly nice under rutile glazes and
also under simple Rhodes 4-3-2-1 glazes. (adapted from
the Rhodes book Clay and Glazes for the Potter)
Clays utilized at that time in my life were Laguna
Death Valley, Rod's Bod, Plainsman H435, H440 and Porcelain.
It seemed to fit all of them well.
When supplies became scare I also experimented with
mixing it 1/2 and 1/2 with Alberta slip, Barnard clay or some Redart for
fairly
successful results.
I also found that it makes a really nice glaze all by itself at about cone
9.
Other's will probably have more specific recipies for you.
P
At the present time I am hoarding the 10 or 15 pounds I still have
for my planned experiments with ash glazes (my someday project).
Kathy
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Subject: Albany Slip how to
Readers:
I recently acquired 50# of Albany slip from a Potter nearby who moved out
to California. I have never seen nor used Albany previously and would like
to know if someone would care to share a 'best use' for it. I fire
Reduction to cone 9-10 range normally but can do other firings as well. I
would imagine I would get the most for my bucks though by making up a slip
rather than a glaze. A slip would last longest and waste the least
amount. Any ideas on a good formulae so I can proceed to enjoy my new
found treasure.
Llewellyn Kouba
Abbey Pottery
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