mel jacobson on mon 13 sep 04
man or woman.
good advice.
i gave it to all that went to kansas city, cranbrook,
etc. in fact i would insist.
take a summer course in welding from the vo/tech school.
learn mig, gas, stick electric.
not one former student ever said...`why did i take welding`?
they all said.
`god, was it great to be a good welder..` period.
when we build kilns at the farm.....andrea rosenberger does
the welding/brazing. why not? i hate to get all sweaty.
once a woman learns to weld, her life changes forever.
it is a huge confidence builder. tools and the use of,
life changers.
mel.
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William Melstrom on tue 14 sep 04
Mel -- what a weird, but excellent, apparently out-of-the-blue, piece of
advise.
Here's another: spend 10 years as an electrician. Do residential,
commercial and industrial. Join a union. You will learn a multitude of
skills, and lessons on life, class and society that will serve you well as
an artist or potter.
William Melstrom
> man or woman.
> good advice.
> i gave it to all that went to kansas city, cranbrook,
> etc. in fact i would insist.
> take a summer course in welding from the vo/tech school.
> learn mig, gas, stick electric.
>
logan johnson on tue 14 sep 04
Hi Gang!
As usual all I have to say to a post of Mel's is AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!
ESPECIALLY this one ! Even though my hubby has taught welding I took it in high school (my dance class was not offered that semester) . We needn't go into how long ago THAT was. To all you females out in clayart land even if your not in school, take a welding class if you can!!! My cermacs partner/ roomate is having my hubby teach her the basics & she's LOVING IT!! It's not as hard as you might think. You'll feel ten feet tall & bullit proof when you use your metal skills the first & every time!! Talk about all the money you can save in the studio by making things for yourself!!!! I have a wedging table that breaks down flat for easy packing when I demonstrate at the fair. I designed it & my hubby built that one cause I was a bit busy at the time but me knowing how to weld made the desigining process quick & painless. BTW, my hubby suggests learning gas welding first , then buy a mig welder.
Now, go have some fun!!!!
Logan
mel jacobson wrote:
man or woman.
good advice.
i gave it to all that went to kansas city, cranbrook,
etc. in fact i would insist.
take a summer course in welding from the vo/tech school.
learn mig, gas, stick electric.
not one former student ever said...`why did i take welding`?
they all said.
`god, was it great to be a good welder..` period.
when we build kilns at the farm.....andrea rosenberger does
the welding/brazing. why not? i hate to get all sweaty.
once a woman learns to weld, her life changes forever.
it is a huge confidence builder. tools and the use of,
life changers.
mel.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
new/ http://www.rid-a-tick.com
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Susan Nebeker on tue 14 sep 04
Okay, Okay-
After Mel's post encouraging art students of both sexes to learn welding, and now Logan's inspiring post, I'm determined to take the plunge!
I so admired my tiny little female pottery teacher's welding skills years ago, but while watching her thought, 'Nah, I can't do that".
I consider my husband the Northwest Welding God- the man can build/repair anything and I lean on him for those skills when I need 'em.
However, the intimidation is over! This will be a great skill to learn and will indeed be fab for my self confidence.......
Sheesh, I'm living with the best teacher I can imagine, it'd be a shame not to do this.
This'll be a great winter project- Wooooohoooooo! One more type of flame to be fascinated with and Mel says my life will change forever- what could be better than that? :)
Susan Nebeker
Pollywog Pottery
logan johnson wrote:
Hi Gang!
As usual all I have to say to a post of Mel's is AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!
ESPECIALLY this one ! Even though my hubby has taught welding I took it in high school (my dance class was not offered that semester) . We needn't go into how long ago THAT was. To all you females out in clayart land even if your not in school, take a welding class if you can!!! My cermacs partner/ roomate is having my hubby teach her the basics & she's LOVING IT!! It's not as hard as you might think. You'll feel ten feet tall & bullit proof when you use your metal skills the first & every time!! Talk about all the money you can save in the studio by making things for yourself!!!! I have a wedging table that breaks down flat for easy packing when I demonstrate at the fair. I designed it & my hubby built that one cause I was a bit busy at the time but me knowing how to weld made the desigining process quick & painless. BTW, my hubby suggests learning gas welding first , then buy a mig welder.
Now, go have some fun!!!!
Logan
mel jacobson wrote:
man or woman.
good advice.
i gave it to all that went to kansas city, cranbrook,
etc. in fact i would insist.
take a summer course in welding from the vo/tech school.
learn mig, gas, stick electric.
not one former student ever said...`why did i take welding`?
they all said.
`god, was it great to be a good welder..` period.
when we build kilns at the farm.....andrea rosenberger does
the welding/brazing. why not? i hate to get all sweaty.
once a woman learns to weld, her life changes forever.
it is a huge confidence builder. tools and the use of,
life changers.
mel.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
new/ http://www.rid-a-tick.com
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Snail Scott on wed 15 sep 04
At 08:07 AM 9/14/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>...my hubby suggests learning gas welding first , then buy a mig welder.
I agree with this. MIG welding is stupid-easy;
it feels like 'push a button, you've got a
weld' but you don't really gain an understanding
of what's happening. Oxy-acetylene is harder -
more things to adjust and pay attention to -
but by the time you've got it down, you'll
really know what's going on.
MIG isn't necessarily better in the end, though.
For assembly of parts, like for a kiln frame,
it's great, since it makes a consistent bead
while allowing one hand free to brace the
material or hold onto a ladder or whatever.
(Same argument applies to arc welding.)
By comparison, oxy-acetylene will give you real
control and flexibility. For making actual art
from metal, it's much more versatile. TIG
welding is the ultimate for control, but also
needs both hands.
Any of these methods will do most jobs, but
if all you want is to assemble kiln frames or
sheds, TIG is an expensive way to go, like
hiring a surgeon to carve a turkey. MIG is
much less expensive, oxy-acetylene is cheaper
still, and arc is really cheap. It's a bit
limiting, though. I'd go for oxy-acetylene
if I were making art, and MIG if I were doing
assembly.
-Snail Scott
John Jensen on wed 15 sep 04
Mel;
I mentioned your advice to my tilemaking class last night," Once a woman
learns to weld, her life changes forever." Which seemed good advice.
One woman said she had studied it in college but rarely used the skill
except for the occasional spot-weld. Another said, "yes, and be
prepared to have sore wrists the rest of your life."
Go figure....
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
http://www.toadhouse.com www://www.mudbugpottery.com
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on wed 15 sep 04
Too...
Once a Man learns sew, cuff trousers, make-a-hem, pleat, and
dart and French-seam and Hong-Kong seam and so on...learns
to Cook and Bake generally, and to
have taste in
Housewares, and to nurture generally...
And too have taste in clothes, and to be
good with babys and Children and tender Creatures, he can
see what a poor job
most women make of these things...
Or, these too...can change his Life...'forever'...
Or, the worst thing about 'gender roles', is that neither
gender
is anymore very good at them, for the most part...anyway...
Love,
Phil
el ve
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jensen"
> Mel;
> I mentioned your advice to my tilemaking class last
night," Once a woman
> learns to weld, her life changes forever." Which seemed
good advice.
> One woman said she had studied it in college but rarely
used the skill
> except for the occasional spot-weld. Another said, "yes,
and be
> prepared to have sore wrists the rest of your life."
>
> Go figure....
>
> John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
> John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
> http://www.toadhouse.com www://www.mudbugpottery.com
>
>
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on thu 16 sep 04
The hard thing about learning to weld, regardless of the technique
employed, is to be critical. You have to be able to recognise those
thing which cause problems and know how to correct them if the joints
you make are not to be defective or fail in use.
Welding, like Pottery, is a craft skill and is subject to the same
constraints, one of which is getting supervised practice.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
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