Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery on sat 18 sep 04
Hi all!
I just had a couple in the studio who have pieces of European pottery
with family names on them. One piece is blank, and they would like to
add a name to it. I have not seen these pieces yet and am very
reluctant to attempt to refire a piece I have no knowledge of the
history of. My question is three fold:
Is there anyone who works in lusters or china painting who would be
interested in tackling this project?
Is that a viable solution? I assume that the firing of luster or china
painting to be low enough in temperature not to disturb an underlying
glaze.
Anyone have an alternative solution?
Thanks everyone!
Darlene Yarnetsky, Mudcat Pottery
Paul Lewing on sat 18 sep 04
on 9/18/04 8:26 AM, Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery at
darlene@MUDCATPOTTERY.COM wrote:
> I just had a couple in the studio who have pieces of European pottery
> with family names on them. One piece is blank, and they would like to
> add a name to it. I have not seen these pieces yet and am very
> reluctant to attempt to refire a piece I have no knowledge of the
> history of. My question is three fold:
>
> Is there anyone who works in lusters or china painting who would be
> interested in tackling this project?
Darlene, I've done quite a bit of china painting, and I'd say that would be
the only viable option for this project. If it's been fired high enough
originally, a cone 04 glaze may work for the lettering, but there's often no
way to tell how high it was fired the first time. Sometimes it's real
obvious if it's been fired really high, and sometimes you can tell that it's
been fired really low, but most times you have no idea.
> Is that a viable solution? I assume that the firing of luster or china
> painting to be low enough in temperature not to disturb an underlying
> glaze.
True- china paint firing will not change the underlying glaze, no matter how
low it was originally fired, and I think there's not really any other
solution.
I would do this for you if you don't feel up to the task. But if you'd like
to attempt it yourself, I have some advice for you. If you've never used
china paint or any kind of overglaze before, I'd get some of the Amaco
product called Versacolor. It comes in a tube, either oil or water based.
Before you buy a tube, massage it a bit and make sure the color hasn't
separated from the medium. If it's a hard lump in one end of the tube,
don't buy it.
You'll probably want to squirt out some color onto a tile or piece of glass
and thin it just a bit. Then you can do your lettering with either a steel
lettering pen or a script brush, whichever feels more comfortable to you and
makes the appropriate typeface. If you use a brush, don't try this with
anything but the best script brush you can find, and don't get one that's
too small. That's the mistake most people make when buying brushes- they
skimp and get one a size too small.
Practice the lettering on a tile, but don't be afraid to just go for it on
the plate. You can always wipe it off- that's one of the great things about
china paint.
And please charge these people a reasonable amount of money for the job.
Pay yourself at least $50 an hour for this. It's supply and demand. There
aren't many people who will do this for them.
I say go for it, but if not, contact me privately. I'd do it in a
heartbeat. If you decide to try it yourself, feel free to ask for any more
advice you need.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery on mon 20 sep 04
Steve-
That is exactly the question - I have not seen these pieces yet but
they are glazed already. I explained the problem with refiring an
already glazed piece to them, but agreed to ask around.
Lettering is NOT my forte and I admit I have no interest in making it
one! :) When needed I will impress letters into the clay with old
printers press letters. If I need multiples, I make a plaster mold of a
lettered tile and add the pressed tiles to the outside of the piece.
Thanks!
Darlene Yarnetsky
original message:
Are these pieces Stoneware or Earthenware?
If the former, I have for some time been putting names on mugs; I make
batches of blanks and name them as required with onglaze colours fired
at 720C (cone 017).
Steve
Bath
UK
Steve Mills on mon 20 sep 04
Are these pieces Stoneware or Earthenware?
If the former, I have for some time been putting names on mugs; I make
batches of blanks and name them as required with onglaze colours fired
at 720C (cone 017).
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery
writes
>Hi all!
>
>I just had a couple in the studio who have pieces of European pottery
>with family names on them. One piece is blank, and they would like to
>add a name to it. I have not seen these pieces yet and am very
>reluctant to attempt to refire a piece I have no knowledge of the
>history of. My question is three fold:
>
>Is there anyone who works in lusters or china painting who would be
>interested in tackling this project?
>
>Is that a viable solution? I assume that the firing of luster or china
>painting to be low enough in temperature not to disturb an underlying
>glaze.
>
>Anyone have an alternative solution?
>
>Thanks everyone!
>Darlene Yarnetsky, Mudcat Pottery
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Paul Lewing on mon 20 sep 04
on 9/20/04 5:57 AM, Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery at
darlene@MUDCATPOTTERY.COM wrote:
> Are these pieces Stoneware or Earthenware?
Actually, it doesn't really matter. China paint will work on either one.
You may notice some differences in the gloss of the fired finish, but that's
all.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
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