b.lev on fri 24 sep 04
Can anyone help me out here. I bought a skutt km1027 (digital =
controller) 208 3 phase 2 years ago and never connected it because i =
had to move the studio to a building that has a different electrical =
service. 240=20
It has never been fired. I am either going to sell it / trade-in for an =
equivelent or, put in a transformer. I also have 2 small 240 kilns so i =
am not sure i want to run 2 completely different and separate =
electrical services. (the electrician bill will be more than the kilns)
If I sell the kiln, what % of price markdown would be reasonable. the =
only difference is that the manufacturer warranty has expired.
Any advice? I have to stop procrastinating on this decision Driving 35 =
km about 10 times last week to fire at a guild when i have my own has =
just made the whole thing absurd... Time to stop. I would be most =
greatful for any advice.
bev
william schran on fri 24 sep 04
Bev wrote:>Can anyone help me out here. I bought a skutt km1027
(digital controller) 208 3 phase 2 years ago and never connected it
because i had to move the studio to a building that has a different
electrical service. 240 <
Bev - Check with Skutt to be certain on this, but you might be able
to simply change from your 208v elements to 240v. In looking at the
AMP draw for 208v vs. 240v, the 208v draws more amps than the 240v
elements in the kilns I fire.
You could just go ahead and fire with the 208v elements. They'll
simply burn our faster.
Bill
Louis Katz on fri 24 sep 04
1. Call Skutt and ask them how much are the parts to change it over.
2. Get new price from a discount house like Bennet's and price it $100
under their best price with no shipping.
See how that sounds to you on the receiving end and adjust accordingly.
A good price is one where neither the buyer or seller feels ripped. The
hard part will be finding a customer for a 208 kiln. You may have to
drop the price further or advertise in a wide area(probably depends on
the population density where you live.
Louis
On Sep 24, 2004, at 7:00 AM, b.lev wrote:
> Can anyone help me out here. I bought a skutt km1027 (digital
> controller) 208 3 phase 2 years ago and never connected it because i
> had to move the studio to a building that has a different electrical
> service. 240
> It has never been fired. I am either going to sell it / trade-in for
> an equivelent or, put in a transformer. I also have 2 small 240 kilns
> so i am not sure i want to run 2 completely different and separate
> electrical services. (the electrician bill will be more than the
> kilns)
> If I sell the kiln, what % of price markdown would be reasonable. the
> only difference is that the manufacturer warranty has expired.
> Any advice? I have to stop procrastinating on this decision Driving
> 35 km about 10 times last week to fire at a guild when i have my own
> has just made the whole thing absurd... Time to stop. I would be most
> greatful for any advice.
> bev
>
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Cynthia Bracker on fri 24 sep 04
If you're set on getting a new 240V kiln, consider donating the kiln to
a local school with 208V 3ph electricity. This configuration is MUCH
more common in a school than in a home. (you might also check with the
guild you mentioned. If they are in an industrial area, they might have
208V 3 Phase. You could donate it there too) Then take the retail price
of the kiln and use that as a tax deduction. Then you can buy your new
kiln outright. Your other possibility is to talk to your local
supplier. If they sold you the kiln they might give you trade-in credit
it for it if they have a place that they can sell it.
If you want to try and convert it to 240V, you can, indeed simply change
the elements. They are $41.00 each retail price and there are six in
the kiln. That would be $246.00 plus tax for the conversion. ALSO,
what you didn't mention is the electrical phase in your building. You
said the kiln is 3 phase. If you have single phase in your building,
you will have to change the wiring in the controller - not necessarily
replace it, just change it. This is something you can probably do
yourself with the proper assistance from a kiln repair tech. If you
hire someone to do that, it would probably take him/her an hour in
labor. If you also had that person change the elements at the same
time, it would be another 1 1/2 hours on top of that. So in total, your
labor charge would be $87.50-175.00 depending on where you're located
and your local repair rates. I hope this helps you make your decision.
Good luck!
Cindy Bracker
b.lev wrote:
>Can anyone help me out here. I bought a skutt km1027 (digital controller) 208 3 phase 2 years ago and never connected it because i had to move the studio to a building that has a different electrical service. 240
>It has never been fired. I am either going to sell it / trade-in for an equivelent or, put in a transformer. I also have 2 small 240 kilns so i am not sure i want to run 2 completely different and separate electrical services. (the electrician bill will be more than the kilns)
>If I sell the kiln, what % of price markdown would be reasonable. the only difference is that the manufacturer warranty has expired.
>Any advice? I have to stop procrastinating on this decision Driving 35 km about 10 times last week to fire at a guild when i have my own has just made the whole thing absurd... Time to stop. I would be most greatful for any advice.
>bev
>
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Jim Pendley on fri 24 sep 04
Having had experience in digital electronics, I would
be more concerned about the controller at 240 v.
Not having seen the schematics or wiring diagram, I
would certainly call the manufacturer to see if the
controller would be accurate and would work at 240
instead of the intended 208. Relays also might not
be in tolerance.
Jim Pendley
--- william schran wrote:
> Bev wrote:>Can anyone help me out here. I bought a
> skutt km1027
> (digital controller) 208 3 phase 2 years ago and
> never connected it
> because i had to move the studio to a building that
> has a different
> electrical service. 240 <
>
> Bev - Check with Skutt to be certain on this, but
> you might be able
> to simply change from your 208v elements to 240v. In
> looking at the
> AMP draw for 208v vs. 240v, the 208v draws more amps
> than the 240v
> elements in the kilns I fire.
>
> You could just go ahead and fire with the 208v
> elements. They'll
> simply burn our faster.
>
> Bill
>
>
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