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mixing ratio--help please?

updated sun 10 oct 04

 

Jim Smola on fri 8 oct 04


I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I like...so I decided to =
buy it bulk and mix it myself.... I've never questioned myself =
before when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me scratching =
my...er...head.....

It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."

5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? This =
would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!

Thanks!
The Pottery Pimp
Jaymes

Steve Slatin on fri 8 oct 04


Jim --

I know nothing of commercially prepared glazes,
but 5# to 95# is one part in twenty, not
one in ten.

Many of our primary ingredients are quite 'fluffy'
as sold, and if ball-milled could be even more so.
I've never checked weights when mixing, but a cup
of water is quite a bit heavier than a cup of
custer feldspar, or a cup of zinc oxide.

Why not give it a try (at the 1:9 ratio) with a very
small quantity and see what the texture is like?

Best wishes -- Steve Slatin


--- Jim Smola wrote:

> I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I
> like...so I decided to buy it bulk and mix it
> myself.... I've never questioned myself before
> when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me
> scratching my...er...head.....
>
> It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio,
> by weight."
>
> 5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm
> doing wrong? This would seem like some mighty "thin"
> glaze!
>
> Thanks!
> The Pottery Pimp
> Jaymes


=====
Steve Slatin -- Lies told, whiskey hauled, widows tended.
Sequim, Washington, USA



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Kim Lindaberry on fri 8 oct 04


At a ration of 1:9 you would use 1 lbs of glaze to 9 lbs of water so if
increase the dry mix by 5 x and you follow the math

5 x 1 = 5 lbs

5 x 9 = 45 lbs

45 pounds of water would equal 45 pints of water ( I think that equals
5.625 gallons of water if my math is correct)



On Oct 8, 2004, at 1:34 PM, Jim Smola wrote:

> I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I like...so I decided to
> buy it bulk and mix it myself.... I've never questioned myself
> before when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me scratching
> my...er...head.....
>
> It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."
>
> 5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? This
> would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!
>
> Thanks!
> The Pottery Pimp
> Jaymes

Marcia Selsor on fri 8 oct 04


That's funny! 1:9 ?
Add the glaze to water. I'd say less water mass than glaze mass.
Reserve some glaze in case you have too much water. Start by mixing
less than all of it. I think you could use a gallon sour cream
container .... put in 1/4 water... add 1,000 grams of your bulk glaze
about 1/2 or 2.2 lbs of your 5 lbs. From there see how it mixes. Go
for a blend heavier than milk. Adjust from there.
Marcia Selsor
On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Jim Smola wrote:

> I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I like...so I decided to
> buy it bulk and mix it myself.... I've never questioned myself
> before when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me scratching
> my...er...head.....
>
> It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."
>
> 5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? This
> would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!
>
> Thanks!
> The Pottery Pimp
> Jaymes
>
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Wayne on fri 8 oct 04


Um...excuse me for appearing the "Brainiac" here, but isn't 5X9 45,
and not 95? 45 pounds of water, at 8.4 pounds per gallon, let's
see\carry the four, divide by the square root of pi...
that's what, 5.5 gallons of water to 5 pounds of glaze mix?

Doesn't sound all that thin.

Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Jim
Smola
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:35 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Mixing Ratio--Help Please?

I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I like...so I decided
to buy it bulk and mix it myself.... I've never questioned
myself before when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me
scratching my...er...head.....

It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."

5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
This would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!

Thanks!
The Pottery Pimp
Jaymes

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Jim Smola on sat 9 oct 04


Thanks Everyone!

Kim--you were exactly correct.

I ended up contacting the supplier I got it from (Axner has been my LIFE
saver!) and "T" told me the exact thing. I don't know what I was thinking of
at first...I just saw "weight" and it really through my "common sense" in a
loop!

Thanks again EVERYONE!!!

The Pottery Pimp
Jaymes


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Lindaberry"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Mixing Ratio--Help Please?


> At a ration of 1:9 you would use 1 lbs of glaze to 9 lbs of water so if
> increase the dry mix by 5 x and you follow the math
>
> 5 x 1 = 5 lbs
>
> 5 x 9 = 45 lbs
>
> 45 pounds of water would equal 45 pints of water ( I think that equals
> 5.625 gallons of water if my math is correct)
>
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2004, at 1:34 PM, Jim Smola wrote:
>
> > I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I like...so I decided to
> > buy it bulk and mix it myself.... I've never questioned myself
> > before when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me scratching
> > my...er...head.....
> >
> > It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."
> >
> > 5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? This
> > would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!
> >
> > Thanks!
> > The Pottery Pimp
> > Jaymes
>
>
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Jim Smola on sat 9 oct 04


Yes Wayne...you are correct...you see there was an error between the chair
and my keyboard when it was typed! :-)

For your Brainiac comprehension--that is called "human error"

Thanks again EVERYONE that was helpful and not spiteful.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Mixing Ratio--Help Please?


Um...excuse me for appearing the "Brainiac" here, but isn't 5X9 45,
and not 95? 45 pounds of water, at 8.4 pounds per gallon, let's
see\carry the four, divide by the square root of pi...
that's what, 5.5 gallons of water to 5 pounds of glaze mix?

Doesn't sound all that thin.

Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Jim
Smola
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 2:35 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Mixing Ratio--Help Please?

I found a glaze (commercially prepared) that I like...so I decided
to buy it bulk and mix it myself.... I've never questioned
myself before when mixing glazes from scratch but this one has me
scratching my...er...head.....

It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."

5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
This would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!

Thanks!
The Pottery Pimp
Jaymes

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BobWicks@AOL.COM on sat 9 oct 04


In a message dated 10/8/2004 7:23:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET writes:


It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."

5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
This would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!

Thanks!
The Pottery Pimp
Jaymes




1 part glaze to 9 parts water is to 5 lbs glaze to X lbs. water
So X equals 45 parts water

It's just a simple problem of algebra. Good luck.

Bob Wicks, Prof Emeritus
HACC

Cynthia Bracker on sat 9 oct 04


Sorry, I don't remember the full text of the original post, but
something just looked familiar to me about what's quoted below. Are you
using Opulence glazes? If so, look closely, It actually says 1: .9 on
the bag. Most people miss the decimal point. It would probably be more
clear if it was written "0.9" If it is Opulence glaze, you can also
just mix it 1:1, which is a lot easier. 1# glaze to 1 pint water. You
might also add a little extra bentonite if you're not going to be using
the glaze up really fast. From customer feedback, it doesn't seem as if
there is enough bentonite in the dry mix to keep it in suspension for
longer periods of time.
Cindy Bracker

BobWicks@AOL.COM wrote:

>In a message dated 10/8/2004 7:23:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET writes:
>
>
>It says -- "Add dry glaze to water at a 1:9 ratio, by weight."
>
>5# dry glaze to 95# water? Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>This would seem like some mighty "thin" glaze!
>
>Thanks!
>The Pottery Pimp
>Jaymes
>
>
>
>
>1 part glaze to 9 parts water is to 5 lbs glaze to X lbs. water
> So X equals 45 parts water
>
>It's just a simple problem of algebra. Good luck.
>
>Bob Wicks, Prof Emeritus
>HACC
>
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>
>
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