Puddy & Co. on sat 16 oct 04
Hallo Dear Group!
Here comes another glazing challenge: I am looking for a Royal Blue
glaze for cone 6. Someone wants to place a relatively large order for
what I do - they love the shape and decoration that I produce, just my
usual blue-green Floating Blue will not do. It has to be Royal Blue -
not Floating, not odinary Cobalt Blue, not Delft or Navy Blue and not
Wedgewood Blue... Only Royal Blue....!
There must be a glaze base or an oxide combination that will produce
this not too dark, bright, deep and cheerful hue of blue. I really hope
that someone will have suggestions as to how to achieve it . I have
checked the Archives, and found one glaze recipe that I am going to test
( I believe it was Alisa!). Any help is appreciated.
Hanna Lewandowski
Earthlight Pottery
British Columbia
Earl Brunner on sat 16 oct 04
Hanna, speaking from my experience, are you REALLY sure you want to go down
that road? It usually leads to the nightmare, pain in the ass,special order
from HELL. They make it sound SO enticing. But they are evil, and they
want to steal your soul.
I have kept the following note since 1979 and it is MANDATORY reading before
EVER accepting a special order: (remember, just like you, they LOVED my
work, shapes, decoration, glazes....)
"Earl Brunner-
We're basically pleased with the lamp base, but since you're firing again
this next week, I'd appreciate reglazing in more of a BROWN rather than so
gray.
I'd like the brown bands wider so there's not so much gray space in the
middle. I'd like 2 or 3 brown tones, as in the vase I've left (now why the
Hell didn't they show me the vase FIRST?) I'd also really like the speckled
look on the plain part so it isn't so white (where'd the gray go?) The
finish is a bit too shiny- can't it be a matte glaze?
Appreciate your patience with me: any questions please give me a call."
AAaarrghhhh!!!!!!!! My blood pressure STILL goes up! This was a HUGE lamp
base.
Look carefully at what you wrote; look at exactly ALL of the blues that just
won't do. You are asking for trouble baby.
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Royal Blue c6 glaze needed
Hallo Dear Group!
Here comes another glazing challenge: I am looking for a Royal Blue
glaze for cone 6. Someone wants to place a relatively large order for
what I do - they love the shape and decoration that I produce, just my
usual blue-green Floating Blue will not do. It has to be Royal Blue -
not Floating, not odinary Cobalt Blue, not Delft or Navy Blue and not
Wedgewood Blue... Only Royal Blue....!
There must be a glaze base or an oxide combination that will produce
this not too dark, bright, deep and cheerful hue of blue. I really hope
that someone will have suggestions as to how to achieve it . I have
checked the Archives, and found one glaze recipe that I am going to test
( I believe it was Alisa!). Any help is appreciated.
Hanna Lewandowski
Earthlight Pottery
British Columbia
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Kathy McDonald on sat 16 oct 04
There is a Harshaw Stain # 1166
that works very well when added to Ron Roy's majolica glaze.
I use about 6-8% and its a really lovely royal blue.
I have used it for about a year now and its very very blue,
and also very pricey.
I get it from Sounding Stone in Winnipeg, but I am sure its
available elsewhere.
I have also done overglaze decoration on white Stoneware
with Mayco Stroke and Coat glazes, Moody Blue gives an excellent
Royal Blue and remains very intact even to cone 10 in redux.
I wish you success..
Kathy
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Puddy & Co.
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 2:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Royal Blue c6 glaze needed
Hallo Dear Group!
Here comes another glazing challenge: I am looking for a Royal Blue
glaze for cone 6. Someone wants to place a relatively large order for
what I do - they love the shape and decoration that I produce, just my
usual blue-green Floating Blue will not do. It has to be Royal Blue -
not Floating, not odinary Cobalt Blue, not Delft or Navy Blue and not
Wedgewood Blue... Only Royal Blue....!
There must be a glaze base or an oxide combination that will produce
this not too dark, bright, deep and cheerful hue of blue. I really hope
that someone will have suggestions as to how to achieve it . I have
checked the Archives, and found one glaze recipe that I am going to test
( I believe it was Alisa!). Any help is appreciated.
Hanna Lewandowski
Earthlight Pottery
British Columbia
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Mary K on sat 16 oct 04
I'd like the brown bands wider so there's not so much gray space in the
middle. I'd like 2 or 3 brown tones, as in the vase I've left (now why
the................
Thanks, I needed a good laugh!! I can see why you have kept that post handy Earl. Looks like we need another missive similar to the one about what it takes to make a mug...one on glazes, temperatures, matte/shiny, etc.....to hand to customers when they ask us innocent, but dumbass questions.........still laughing.....Mary K
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Sue Cline on sun 17 oct 04
Hanna -- I have had wonderful results with ""Saffire Blue" from John Hesselberth's website (frogpondpottery.com). John and Ron Roy have written a definitive book about stable and durable cone 6 glaze techniques and considerations, in case you hadn't heard (although I can't imagine ANYONE on this list not knowing about Mastering Cone 6 Glazes.
Anyway -- the Saffire Blue is glossy, deep, and a bit variegated. I don't know if you'd call it "royal" but I think it surely is "majestic." It's deeper than floating blue and I don't think there's any RIO in it. I have had better luck with the original as opposed to the "revised" version on the website. I haven't analyzed just why. You might give this a try. Looks very nice on a smooth surface but also breaks nicely on texture. I have used it on white stoneware, and also on brown.
As always -- test, test, test.
Sue Cline
Cincinnati, Ohio
Potters Council Member
-----Original Message-----
From: "Puddy & Co."
Sent: Oct 16, 2004 3:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Royal Blue c6 glaze needed
Hallo Dear Group!
Here comes another glazing challenge: I am looking for a Royal Blue
glaze for cone 6. Someone wants to place a relatively large order for
what I do - they love the shape and decoration that I produce, just my
usual blue-green Floating Blue will not do. It has to be Royal Blue -
not Floating, not odinary Cobalt Blue, not Delft or Navy Blue and not
Wedgewood Blue... Only Royal Blue....!
There must be a glaze base or an oxide combination that will produce
this not too dark, bright, deep and cheerful hue of blue. I really hope
that someone will have suggestions as to how to achieve it . I have
checked the Archives, and found one glaze recipe that I am going to test
( I believe it was Alisa!). Any help is appreciated.
Hanna Lewandowski
Earthlight Pottery
British Columbia
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Lowell Barron on sun 17 oct 04
Hi Hanna and Sue....and the glaze gurus,
This is great! I have a daughter who loves this colour too and have been
wanting a recipe. This one sounds great and I am excited to try it.
However, I am wondering about the Feldspar. I have Kona F4 and G 200. The G
200 looks close to Custer composition wise. Close enough or should I go and
get some Custer?
Thanks again, Lowell Ann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Cline"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: Royal Blue c6 glaze needed
> Hanna -- I have had wonderful results with ""Saffire Blue" from John
Hesselberth's website (frogpondpottery.com). John and Ron Roy have written
a definitive book about stable and durable cone 6 glaze techniques and
considerations, in case you hadn't heard (although I can't imagine ANYONE on
this list not knowing about Mastering Cone 6 Glazes.
>
> Anyway -- the Saffire Blue is glossy, deep, and a bit variegated. I don't
know if you'd call it "royal" but I think it surely is "majestic." It's
deeper than floating blue and I don't think there's any RIO in it. I have
had better luck with the original as opposed to the "revised" version on the
website. I haven't analyzed just why. You might give this a try. Looks very
nice on a smooth surface but also breaks nicely on texture. I have used it
on white stoneware, and also on brown.
>
> As always -- test, test, test.
>
> Sue Cline
> Cincinnati, Ohio
> Potters Council Member
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Puddy & Co."
> Sent: Oct 16, 2004 3:06 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Royal Blue c6 glaze needed
>
> Hallo Dear Group!
>
> Here comes another glazing challenge: I am looking for a Royal Blue
> glaze for cone 6. Someone wants to place a relatively large order for
> what I do - they love the shape and decoration that I produce, just my
> usual blue-green Floating Blue will not do. It has to be Royal Blue -
> not Floating, not odinary Cobalt Blue, not Delft or Navy Blue and not
> Wedgewood Blue... Only Royal Blue....!
>
> There must be a glaze base or an oxide combination that will produce
> this not too dark, bright, deep and cheerful hue of blue. I really hope
> that someone will have suggestions as to how to achieve it . I have
> checked the Archives, and found one glaze recipe that I am going to test
> ( I believe it was Alisa!). Any help is appreciated.
>
> Hanna Lewandowski
> Earthlight Pottery
> British Columbia
>
>
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>
>
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Alisa Liskin Clausen on sun 17 oct 04
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:06:25 -0700, Puddy & Co. wrote:
>Hallo Dear Group!
>
>Here comes another glazing challenge: I am looking for a Royal Blue
>glaze for cone 6.
Dear Hanne,
I would like to help you if I can. I am wondering what you clay type fires
to? White, tan, grey or darker?
I am stumped by Royal Blue because I have seen so many blues up to now, and
so far I have them grouped in my mind as cobalt, medicine bottle,
perwinkle, dolomite, etc. Do you want a gloss, even in color?
If you can explain a little more I will go over my blue tests and send you
some recipes as a jumping off point for you trials. I would have the tests
tested in bigger batches before showing your client tiles. Little batches
and big batches can be widely different.
regards from Alisa in Denmark
Not of lover of special order glazes because I would rather my customers
pick from tried and trues. Otherwise just give yourself time enough to
allow for "reality" firings of the new glazes.
j e motzkin on tue 19 oct 04
I met a writer who told me that whenever he was confronted with a project, he would consider it if it satisfied 2 of the following 3 criteria:
1. Will I make money?
2. Will it further my career?
3. Will it be fun?
I have since found out that this man was a bit thin of character, so I rethought it to include a few other criteria...though I have not decided how many need to be met.
4. Will it help someone else?
5. Will it help humanity or the earth?
6. Will I learn something?
7. Will it build relationships/community?
I advise students/apprentices to take these commissions because there is always something to be learned. I am afraid even the lesson of the brown lamp base letter offered by Phil(?) is one that we perhaps only learn the hard way. For me it was a ^10 porcelain soup tureen on a pedestal foot that the client wanted that way but that the clay could not handle without warping...
Last year someone came to me asking for a dinnerset to match one made by a potter who was no longer around (or a referral to someone who could do it.) I gave it to my assistant who learned so much from the commission and got paid to learn it. She matched clay and glazes, learned about sizing adn weight, making more than you need, about the business end of a commission, about plate thickness and bowl rims and more. Since this is something I don't do any more, it was a great opportunity for her. The customer bought all the extras as well.
So don't be afraid to take it. If nothing else you will have a story to tell. If you are lucky you will learn something you can constructively use in your work. Consider commercial glazes if this is not a color you wish to add to your palette. Make sure you get a deposit. Good luck.
Jude
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Kathy Forer on tue 19 oct 04
On Oct 19, 2004, at 1:18 PM, j e motzkin wrote:
> I met a writer who told me that whenever he was confronted with a
> project, he would consider it if it satisfied 2 of the following 3
> criteria:
> 1. Will I make money?
> 2. Will it further my career?
> 3. Will it be fun?
>
> I have since found out that this man was a bit thin of character, so I
> rethought it to include a few other criteria...though I have not
> decided how many need to be met.
>
> 4. Will it help someone else?
> 5. Will it help humanity or the earth?
> 6. Will I learn something?
> 7. Will it build relationships/community?
Here's another, depending on the circumstances:
8. Would I do it if I were not getting paid?
Kathy
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