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mugs and the time warp factor

updated tue 26 oct 04

 

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sat 23 oct 04


Hi Earl,


The subject line made me think of 'Riff Raff' in Rocky
Horror Picture Show...I allways liked that song too of 'Lets
do the Time Warp again" or whatever it's title is...


...so all tolled..beginning-to-end...something like 12
minutes each maybe?

From...about-to-wedge...to...finished, out-of-the-kiln
(Handled) Mugs ?

...where Tumblers ( no Handles) would be about 1/2 that...?


(Not counting time IN the Kiln of course...)


Phil
el ve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Brunner"


> I can throw about 30 mugs in two hours and it takes me
about the same amount
> of time to put the handles on and finish them green. Maybe
a little longer
> with wedging.
>
> Earl Brunner
> Las Vegas, NV

Earl Brunner on sat 23 oct 04


The question was just up to "ready to fire".

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:Hi Earl,


The subject line made me think of 'Riff Raff' in Rocky
Horror Picture Show...I allways liked that song too of 'Lets
do the Time Warp again" or whatever it's title is...


...so all tolled..beginning-to-end...something like 12
minutes each maybe?

From...about-to-wedge...to...finished, out-of-the-kiln
(Handled) Mugs ?

...where Tumblers ( no Handles) would be about 1/2 that...?


(Not counting time IN the Kiln of course...)


Phil
el ve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Brunner"


> I can throw about 30 mugs in two hours and it takes me
about the same amount
> of time to put the handles on and finish them green. Maybe
a little longer
> with wedging.
>
> Earl Brunner
> Las Vegas, NV

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wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET on sat 23 oct 04


First, let me be absolutely clear.=20
I do not care to have this turn into a=20
contest; one of those "well, I can do it in..."=20
hormone dripping, trumpeting and beating one's
chest things. (Yeah, you women too )

The question is simple.

How long does it take you to make a mug?
What size is the mug? How long to attach a
handle, etc.. I'm not so worried about glazing or firing,
as that varies. I'm looking for construction time here, cylinder,
handle, attachment, trim, done and ready to dry/glaze/decorate/fire.

Answers can be "it takes me an average of _x_ minutes"...for each
stage" to "I make _X_ number of mugs (complete/cylinders
only/handles...)in _X_ amount of time."

I'm trying to do a time study, run a stat. analysis, and need some
input from you studio/production/self-employed potters. Also,
please let me know if you're hump throwing or not. That makes a
difference.

Please take a moment and respond; off list is ok too, rather than=20
make the mayor crazy with posts. All responses offlist will be
considered confidential (no one will embarrass anyone that way)

Many TIA,
Wayne

Wayne Seidl
Key West FL US

"Life is sexually transmitted"=20

Earl Brunner on sat 23 oct 04


I can throw about 30 mugs in two hours and it takes me about the same amount
of time to put the handles on and finish them green. Maybe a little longer
with wedging.

Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 2:20 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Mugs and the time warp factor

First, let me be absolutely clear.
I do not care to have this turn into a
contest; one of those "well, I can do it in..."
hormone dripping, trumpeting and beating one's
chest things. (Yeah, you women too )

The question is simple.

How long does it take you to make a mug?
What size is the mug? How long to attach a
handle, etc.. I'm not so worried about glazing or firing,
as that varies. I'm looking for construction time here, cylinder,
handle, attachment, trim, done and ready to dry/glaze/decorate/fire.

Answers can be "it takes me an average of _x_ minutes"...for each
stage" to "I make _X_ number of mugs (complete/cylinders
only/handles...)in _X_ amount of time."

I'm trying to do a time study, run a stat. analysis, and need some
input from you studio/production/self-employed potters. Also,
please let me know if you're hump throwing or not. That makes a
difference.

Please take a moment and respond; off list is ok too, rather than
make the mayor crazy with posts. All responses offlist will be
considered confidential (no one will embarrass anyone that way)

Many TIA,
Wayne

Wayne Seidl
Key West FL US

"Life is sexually transmitted"

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Chuck Wagoner on sun 24 oct 04


I can make 100 mugs in one day in 8 or 9 hours. But ask me what I do the
next day....the bats have to be cleaned and the pots trimmed, new clay
pugged. So when someone tells me they can make 100 plus pots in a day I
always want to know, "what they did the next day" True, that if you have
others helping with the finish work and preparing clay I suppose one
could make a bunch every day, but at our mom and pop business we follow
the adage of the "hare and the turtle" finding that plodding along like
the turtle at an even pace yields more pottery then "cranking em' out"
will in the long run. Anyone that doesn't believe that haste makes waste
has never made production pottery.

One thing that helps me to keep production up is to never count how many
pots I am making. Just enjoy each pot and concentrate on the task at
hand. Setting a number of pots to complete or timing production for me
causes me to lose perspective on the moment and the special nature of
throwing.

Obviously certain techniques are time savers and it is important to be
efficient. One of the main things that I do is to move right from one
pot to the next pot, sort of the way speed readers learn to move quickly
from the end of a the line right to the beginning one on the right side.

Pulling handles many at a time helps to. I make all the mugs and then
pull all the handles.

We made a lot of mugs this year, but I don't know how many, but I
enjoyed each one at the time I made it and I'm going to make some more
tomorrow.

Potter Wagoner

Potting in Parke County Indiana, home of thirty-one covered bridges.

Kate Johnson on mon 25 oct 04


>I can make 100 mugs in one day in 8 or 9 hours. But ask me what I do the
> next day....the bats have to be cleaned and the pots trimmed, new clay
> pugged.

Wow. I'm shaking my head in wonder and admiration for the answers I've seen
here.

Pinch pots and handbuilt pieces are, um, a wee bit slower. I made three
bowls, one platter, and 4 pots over the weekend...

Best--
Kate