Vince Pitelka on fri 29 oct 04
>I was wondering if anyone knew of a supplier who had any asbestos gloves or
> mits? (even hidden in the back on a shelf hush hush)
> or do you know of anyone who has some older ones (a complete pair or even
> part of a pair) preferably without holes, that they would be willing to
> part
> with?
Anne -
I am wondering why you would want these? Asbestos is a known carcinogen,
and the gloves readily release fibers into the air, far worse than Kevlar
gloves.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
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Anne Webb on fri 29 oct 04
I was wondering if anyone knew of a supplier who had any asbestos gloves or
mits? (even hidden in the back on a shelf hush hush)
or do you know of anyone who has some older ones (a complete pair or even
part of a pair) preferably without holes, that they would be willing to part
with?
please contact me off list.
thanks!
anne webb
251-965-6661
webbpots@hotmail.com
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Anne Webb on sat 30 oct 04
ivor.. i dont use tongs and kevlar gloves dont cut it. they catch aflame
when i snatch pots/tiles out of the kiln (raku).
i am certainly not suggesting or even encouraging anybody else from using
them.
anne
>From: "Ivor and Olive Lewis"
>To: "Anne Webb"
>Subject: Re: asbestos gloves not kevlar
>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:45:26 +0930
>
>Dear Ann Webb,
>It seems that you are aware of the hazards associated with Asbestos
>..<<(even hidden in the back on a shelf hush hush)>>...
>My suggestion is that you search out a supplier of the modern Kevlar
>product if it is necessary to have some form of heat resistant
>apparel. I have an old pair from twenty five years ago that are still
>in good condition as well as a pair of Welders Chrome Leather Mitts
>which resist radiant heat fairly well.
>Best regards,
>Ivor
>
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Logan Oplinger on sat 30 oct 04
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:12:57 -0500, Anne Webb wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone knew of a supplier who had any asbestos gloves or
mits? (even hidden in the back on a shelf hush hush)..... preferably
without holes, that they would be willing to part with?
>
>please contact me off list.
>thanks!
>anne webb
>
>251-965-6661
>webbpots@hotmail.com
Hello Anne,
Don't use asbestos! There are better materials available now. One is a
ceramic fiber material called "Zetex", & is used as a replacement for
asbestos.
Go to the following websites for more info. & ordering:
http://www.newtex.com/home.htm
or
http://www.wardburner.com/protective.cfm
(I have no personal affiliation with either company.)
Logan Oplinger
Another Tropical Island
Vince Pitelka on sat 30 oct 04
> ivor.. i dont use tongs and kevlar gloves dont cut it. they catch aflame
> when i snatch pots/tiles out of the kiln (raku).
> i am certainly not suggesting or even encouraging anybody else from using
> them.
> anne
Anne -
And why don't you use tongs???? Asbestos gloves won't cut it either, and
you will give yourself lung cancer. You need to use the appropriate glove
liners. Contact Marc Ward at Ward Burner Systems and he can set you up with
the necessary accessories. Do this the right way.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Logan Oplinger on wed 3 nov 04
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Webb"
To: loganoplinger@PACIFIC-OCEAN.COM
Subject: Re: asbestos gloves not kevlar
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:45:01 -0500
logan.. you have personal experience with this fiber? is it better
than
kevlar? cuz when i try to pick up a hot pot using kevlar gloves, they
simply
burst into flames (i pick up pots at particularly hot temps) so
needless to
say kevlar wont do it for me. i need something with a comparable heat
rating
to asbestos.
anne
......
>Go to the following websites for more info. & ordering:
>
>http://www.newtex.com/home.htm
>or
>http://www.wardburner.com/protective.cfm
>
.......
Hello Again Anne,
I don't use my gloves for handling red hot pots. The information in
the www.newtex.com site shows a Zetex Plus, rated at 2000 deg. F.,
glove being used to handle a piece of red hot pipe. Zetex is a
mineral fiber like ceramic fiber & will not burn. Kevlar is an
organic fiber, nylon, and will burn.
The Zetex may have an organic binder added to give the material
abrasion resistance, which is probably why my gloves have chared.
The charing does not affect the temp. rating, but will most likely
reduce the lifespan.
I hope this helps.
Logan Oplinger
Another Tropical Island
Vince Pitelka on wed 3 nov 04
Anne wrote -
> logan.. you have personal experience with this fiber? is it better than
> kevlar? cuz when i try to pick up a hot pot using kevlar gloves, they
> simply
> burst into flames (i pick up pots at particularly hot temps) so needless
> to
> say kevlar wont do it for me. i need something with a comparable heat
> rating
> to asbestos.
> anne
Hey Anne, are you listening? In addition to all the warnings about asbestos
from people on this list, at least three people have suggested you contact
Marc Ward at Ward Burner Systems, because he markets complete systems that
will satisfy your needs. Have you done that yet? We'll all be interested
to hear about the solution that he provides for you.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Todd Van Duren on wed 3 nov 04
Hi Anne.
I have personal experience with the ZetexPlus gloves. I wear a pair
of 23" gloves with the overmitts. I fire my raku work to about 900C,
(1650F), well below the rating for these gloves. Each piece I pull
takes about 2-3 seconds to move to the reduction chamber, and I can
move about 10 or so pieces before the the gloves become too hot to
wear. I rarely have to do this, but if I need to pull more work from
an especially full kiln, it is possible to remove the gloves and
switch them to the other hand, (left glove goes to right hand, right
glove goes to left hand), and I can get a few more seconds of pull
time with the cooler glove surface now on my palms.
Do be careful and make sure the glaze on the pot is not still molten
when you pick them up! I made this mistake once and found my gloved
hands frozen to a red hot pot! Fortunately, I had someone there to
help steady the piece while I pried my hands free before the glaze
cooled completely.
Todd A. Van Duren
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 03:20:55 -0500, Logan Oplinger
wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Webb"
> To: loganoplinger@PACIFIC-OCEAN.COM
> Subject: Re: asbestos gloves not kevlar
> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:45:01 -0500
>
> logan.. you have personal experience with this fiber? is it better
> than
> kevlar? cuz when i try to pick up a hot pot using kevlar gloves, they
> simply
> burst into flames (i pick up pots at particularly hot temps) so
> needless to
> say kevlar wont do it for me. i need something with a comparable heat
> rating
> to asbestos.
> anne
>
> ......
>
> >Go to the following websites for more info. & ordering:
> >
> >http://www.newtex.com/home.htm
> >or
> >http://www.wardburner.com/protective.cfm
> >
>
> .......
>
> Hello Again Anne,
>
> I don't use my gloves for handling red hot pots. The information in
> the www.newtex.com site shows a Zetex Plus, rated at 2000 deg. F.,
> glove being used to handle a piece of red hot pipe. Zetex is a
> mineral fiber like ceramic fiber & will not burn. Kevlar is an
> organic fiber, nylon, and will burn.
>
> The Zetex may have an organic binder added to give the material
> abrasion resistance, which is probably why my gloves have chared.
> The charing does not affect the temp. rating, but will most likely
> reduce the lifespan.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Logan Oplinger
> Another Tropical Island
>
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