Kenneth D. Westfall on wed 3 nov 04
>If you can get a pickup truck backed up close then I would suggest you
>call a tow truck company and get a roll back truck to come winch it on
>and haul it for you. The pipe roller idea may be a good addition to the
>roll back truck to help reduce the strain of winching it on the truck.
>Jonathan in DC
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Jonathan Kirkendall on wed 3 nov 04
Hi,
Several weeks ago I had posted something about someone offering me a
gas kiln. Well, I've seen it - it's only been fired three times, and
although it's twenty years old, has been protected from the elements
the entire time, so it's virtually rust free. The owner can't remember
if it's called a California Kiln or a West Coast kiln. At any rate, it
is a downdraft kiln, has four burners, two on each side, and is roughly
3 feet wide, 3 feet deep, and a little taller with the arch. It is
made of fire brick, covered in sheet metal, with an iron frame, and a
hinged, brick door.
So....how do you move this? Do I just find four guys and a pick up
truck, pick it up and move it? It looks like it would be pretty
straight forward, but would love any feedback that anyone could offer.
The kiln is in her back yard, but with easy access from the street (ie,
we really can drive a pick up truck right up to the kiln). I have
digital pictures of the kiln that I would be glad to email to anyone if
that would be helpful - or if you thought that you could identify it!
I'm completely blown away by this offer. I take the kiln, in return
she'd like to fire some pots in it...and that's it!
Jonathan in DC
ASHPOTS@AOL.COM on wed 3 nov 04
i recently moved a Alpine gas kiln,, i used 2" pipe as rollers.. I used 2
hydralic jacks.. Its a matter of taking your time and dont rush it..Lift the kiln
using the jacks and put the pipes or rollers under the kiln and roll.. We had
to use 3 rollers and also moved to a place a roll back picked it up and moved
to my place
My Alpine was 3500 lbs.. 4 big strong guys would not lift that.. Think about
it before you ruin your or your friends back
Mark
John Rodgers on wed 3 nov 04
Sounds like a good deal. Moving is a problem though.
Have you looked into Pallet Jacks. They are often used for moving very
heavy loads. Have spreadable arms or tines sometimes and that can help
With two of them you can move some pretty big and heavy stuff.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Jonathan Kirkendall wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Several weeks ago I had posted something about someone offering me a
> gas kiln. Well, I've seen it - it's only been fired three times, and
> although it's twenty years old, has been protected from the elements
> the entire time, so it's virtually rust free. The owner can't remember
> if it's called a California Kiln or a West Coast kiln. At any rate, it
> is a downdraft kiln, has four burners, two on each side, and is roughly
> 3 feet wide, 3 feet deep, and a little taller with the arch. It is
> made of fire brick, covered in sheet metal, with an iron frame, and a
> hinged, brick door.
>
> So....how do you move this? Do I just find four guys and a pick up
> truck, pick it up and move it? It looks like it would be pretty
> straight forward, but would love any feedback that anyone could offer.
> The kiln is in her back yard, but with easy access from the street (ie,
> we really can drive a pick up truck right up to the kiln). I have
> digital pictures of the kiln that I would be glad to email to anyone if
> that would be helpful - or if you thought that you could identify it!
>
> I'm completely blown away by this offer. I take the kiln, in return
> she'd like to fire some pots in it...and that's it!
>
> Jonathan in DC
>
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John Jensen on wed 3 nov 04
I just had the experience of moving a kiln: a Baily 18/12 which is about
four feet to the side on the outside. I have a friend with a 3500 lb =
hoist
on a flatbed truck. I think the kiln probably only weighed close to 1200 =
lb,
though I can't say for sure. We put straps under the frame and just =
lifted
it on to the truck. I had been planning on using a bobcat with forklift
attachment to pick up the kiln and put it on to a truck till my =
stonecarver
friend offered his truck.
In my case the kiln was at the bottom of a hill; so I built a sled from
plywood and 2x3 lumber and rolled the kiln onto the sled. Then, using =
the
winch, we pulled the kiln (on the sled)up the hill on a track made of =
4x6
landscaping timbers. Once we got it near the truck the crane hoist was
employed. I budgeted about $400 dollars for this project but with the =
help
of my friend we kept it to $250. Plus a day of work. One thing I did =
was
build a support inside the kiln to keep the bricks from moving. This =
took a
few hours.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
http://www.toadhouse.com www://www.mudbugpottery.com
Mike Gordon on wed 3 nov 04
On Nov 3, 2004, at 7:40 AM, Jonathan Kirkendall wrote:
>
> I'm completely blown away by this offer. I take the kiln, in return
> she'd like to fire some pots in it...and that's it!
>
> Take that kiln and run with it!!! When I moved mine I built an arch
> support out of 1x2's with a plywood arch at either end that matches
> the arch itself, Pack some newspaper between the arch and the wood.
> Put another piece of plywood on the floor and brace the arch with
> 2x4's to hold it snug. Don't force it up too much,just snug. The same
> can be done for the side walls. I've moved several this way with no
> problems, keep it level at all times during the lifting, and tie it
> down so it doesn't move in transit. Good Luck, Mike Gordon
>
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Ingeborg Foco on thu 4 nov 04
Jonathan,
It sounds similar to a California Kiln. I moved one of those when I
purchased it new. Two people can move the kiln without breaking your back.
(I'm not very large)
We rented an engine hoist to place the kiln in and out of the pick-up. Once
set on the ground, two pieces of pipe to roll it the ancient Egyptian way.
When the kiln is positioned where it will sit, move it up by slowly by
having one person prop up one side and slide a brick, block or whatever
under it then do the other side. Continue to do this until you have it
sitting on blocks at the height you desire.
I wrote about this some time ago and it should be in the archives.
Good luck.
Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
P.O. Box 510
3058 Stringfellow Road
St. James City, Florida 33956
239-283-2775
>
>>
> Jonathan Kirkendall wrote:
>
> >> >
> > The owner can't remember
> > if it's called a California Kiln or a West Coast kiln. At any rate, it
> > is a downdraft kiln, has four burners, two on each side, and is roughly
> > 3 feet wide, 3 feet deep, and a little taller with the arch. It is
> > made of fire brick, covered in sheet metal, with an iron frame, and a
> > hinged, brick door.
> >
> > So....how do you move this? > >
> >> >
> >
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Ron Roy on fri 5 nov 04
Hi Jonathan,
When I got my kiln delivered (a Geil 18 Cu Ft) I had a flat bed truck
deliver it - the kind that delivers cement blocks and bricks to building
sites - they carry a fork lift with them.
Piece of cake - but make sure there is a way for the forks to lift it - and
inspect for damage after.
RR
>So....how do you move this? Do I just find four guys and a pick up
>truck, pick it up and move it? It looks like it would be pretty
>straight forward, but would love any feedback that anyone could offer.
>The kiln is in her back yard, but with easy access from the street (ie,
>we really can drive a pick up truck right up to the kiln). I have
>digital pictures of the kiln that I would be glad to email to anyone if
>that would be helpful - or if you thought that you could identify it!
>
>I'm completely blown away by this offer. I take the kiln, in return
>she'd like to fire some pots in it...and that's it!
>
>Jonathan in DC
Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Phone: 613-475-9544
Fax: 613-475-3513
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