Abby Deneau on fri 5 nov 04
Hi, this is my first time posting, but this litserv has been a great
resource for me since i started my own studio last year. I was just
wondering if anyone has ever experimented with painting Mason stains over
another glaze. I have been making sets of polka dotted salt-n-peppr shakers,
and to get the brightly colored dots i have spent many hours actually
removing glaze with a tiny round sponge and filling in with the other color.
the sets match with one maybe chartruse with avacado dots and the other
avocado with chartruse dots. this technique is not cost effective because
of the time involved, and i was looking for a new technique to paint the
dots on top of the glaze instead of removing the glaze underneath. i was
wondering about maybe firing the undercolor first (i mix lowfire white slip
and glaze fire to 03) and then using the other stain as a china paint on
top, but my experiments have produced nothing. has anyone else ever tried
anything like this? getting the bright colors on top of darker colors might
be a problem i can't solve, but if anyone has any recipes for turning stains
into china paints and could tell me what cone to fire them too, and perhaps
a low fire glaze (maybe majolica?) that works underneath, i would appreciate
it a lot. thanks!
abby deneau
Laurie Kneppel on fri 5 nov 04
Hi Abby,
AMACO makes a nice set of majolica colors and glaze that fires to cone
05. A couple years back they sold a sampler set for a special
introductory price and I tried it. The colors are nice and bright and
you can get a nice wash effect or a more solid color depending on your
application. The glaze they were selling with it was a glossy white.
You can also use the colors on their Cone 5 white glaze. You could also
test them on your own white (or other color) glaze to see if they work
with it.
Here is AMACO's website. Look up the Majolica colors in the Underglaze
section:
http://www.amaco.com
Hope that helps,
Laurie
Sacramento, CA
http://rockyraku.com
Potters Council, charter member
Sacramento Potters Group, member
On Nov 5, 2004, at 9:13 AM, Abby Deneau wrote:
> but if anyone has any recipes for turning stains
> into china paints and could tell me what cone to fire them too, and
> perhaps
> a low fire glaze (maybe majolica?) that works underneath, i would
> appreciate
> it a lot. thanks!
>
> abby deneau
Paul Lewing on mon 8 nov 04
on 11/5/04 9:13 AM, Abby Deneau at deneauab@MSU.EDU wrote:
> I have been making sets of polka dotted salt-n-peppr shakers,
> and to get the brightly colored dots i have spent many hours actually
> removing glaze with a tiny round sponge and filling in with the other color.
Abby, I think you just need more efficient methods. I'd dip the base glaze
on, and remove the dots with some thing other than a sponge. I'd get an
appropriate size of stencil brush, whack the handle off at about one inch,
and put it in an electric drill. Zap that glaze off in seconds (with proper
ventilation of course). Wax around where you want the dots before you
remove them for a clean edge, and apply the dots with a slip trailer instead
of a brush.
i was wondering about maybe firing the undercolor first (i mix lowfire white
slip
> and glaze fire to 03) and then using the other stain as a china paint on
> top, but my experiments have produced nothing. has anyone else ever tried
> anything like this? getting the bright colors on top of darker colors might
> be a problem i can't solve, but if anyone has any recipes for turning stains
> into china paints and could tell me what cone to fire them to
Yes covering dark colors with light is a problem with china paints. You can
make your own china paints (they're usually about 3/4 lead frit, and 1/4
colorant such as Mason stain) but there's really no need to China paint
manufacturers make hundreds of different colors. They're usually fired
between cone 017 and cone 015. You'd probably be happier just finding a
more efficient way to apply your dots using glazes.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
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