Laurie Kneppel on tue 16 nov 04
I got some from ClayPeople in Richmond, CA. but then there would be the
shipping across the country. They hold up to 14" diameter plates and
plaques okay. I tried bisque firing my plates on their sides this last
time and I will do that from now on as they miraculously did not warp!
But of course they were glaze fired on the setters. They have gone to
cone 10 R twice now (just got them over the summer) and so far they
haven't warped or shown any changes from new condition. I'll keep my
fingers crossed they don't suddenly fail on me. They are square and
solid and sort of ribbed. They are supposed to be for tiles but if you
don't make your plate rims too tall they hold plates just fine. They
have about an inch and a half clearance, I am guessing since they are
outside and I am in the warm living room waiting for Frontline to come
on.
Laurie
Sacramento, CA
http://rockyraku.com
Potters Council, charter member
Sacramento Potters Group, member
On Nov 16, 2004, at 12:20 PM, Paul B wrote:
> i have been trying to find some plate setters that are big enough to
> fire
> 14" plates. The only ones i know of are from Bailey but the shipping
> accross country plus the very high handling fee they charge would
> basically
> double the price, so that does not work. Does anyone know where i
> could get
> some closer to the east coast, or even some used ones?
> Paul B
> Falmouth, KY
>
Paul B on tue 16 nov 04
i have been trying to find some plate setters that are big enough to fire
14" plates. The only ones i know of are from Bailey but the shipping
accross country plus the very high handling fee they charge would basically
double the price, so that does not work. Does anyone know where i could get
some closer to the east coast, or even some used ones?
Paul B
Falmouth, KY
Cynthia Bracker on tue 16 nov 04
You might try Highwater, they're fairly close geographically and I think
they carry Acme Marls plate setters, although I'm not sure how large
they come. I'm quite fond of the Roselli Plate rack set which you can
see on our website at
http://www.brackers.com/store/results_detail.cfm?cat=433&prodid=RSPR
You can place them as far apart as you need them. I think most
suppliers carry Roselli products, so you can probably get them wherever
you get your supplies usually.
Cindy Bracker
Paul B wrote:
>i have been trying to find some plate setters that are big enough to fire
>14" plates. The only ones i know of are from Bailey but the shipping
>accross country plus the very high handling fee they charge would basically
>double the price, so that does not work. Does anyone know where i could get
>some closer to the east coast, or even some used ones?
>Paul B
>Falmouth, KY
>
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Chris Schafale on tue 16 nov 04
Beware the Roselli product that Cindy mentions, if you are firing higher
than earthenware temps. I thought they looked like a great idea, too, but
my plates looked like potato chips when fired to cone 6 with these. If you
really want to try them, I've got a bunch you can have for cheap....
Chris
At 05:06 PM 11/16/2004, you wrote:
>You might try Highwater, they're fairly close geographically and I think
>they carry Acme Marls plate setters, although I'm not sure how large
>they come. I'm quite fond of the Roselli Plate rack set which you can
>see on our website at
>http://www.brackers.com/store/results_detail.cfm?cat=433&prodid=RSPR
>You can place them as far apart as you need them. I think most
>suppliers carry Roselli products, so you can probably get them wherever
>you get your supplies usually.
>Cindy Bracker
>
>Paul B wrote:
>
>>i have been trying to find some plate setters that are big enough to fire
>>14" plates. The only ones i know of are from Bailey but the shipping
>>accross country plus the very high handling fee they charge would basically
>>double the price, so that does not work. Does anyone know where i could get
>>some closer to the east coast, or even some used ones?
>>Paul B
>>Falmouth, KY
>>
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David Hendley on tue 16 nov 04
I can't imagine any 14" plate setter that could withstand repeated
cone 10 firings. I think they would have to be as thick as kiln shelves
to be durable. At that point, what's the use, why not just use kiln shelves?
Highwater Clays in North Carolina carries Gimson plate setters, which
I think are the sturdiest, longest lasting brand.You buy the setter in
whatever diameter you want, from 8" to 12", and then you buy 3 legs
to go with it, from 1 1/4" to 3 1/4" tall, and cement them in place.
A 12" setter with legs is about $12, + 10% packing fee, + shipping.
David Hendley
Working hard to make sure there is no mug left behind
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
> Beware the Roselli product that Cindy mentions, if you are firing higher
> than earthenware temps. I thought they looked like a great idea, too, but
> my plates looked like potato chips when fired to cone 6 with these. If
you
> really want to try them, I've got a bunch you can have for cheap....
> >Paul B wrote:
> >
> >>i have been trying to find some plate setters that are big enough to
fire
> >>14" plates. The only ones i know of are from Bailey but the shipping
> >>accross country plus the very high handling fee they charge would
basically
> >>double the price, so that does not work. Does anyone know where i could
get
> >>some closer to the east coast, or even some used ones?
> >>Paul B
> >>Falmouth, KY
>
Cat Jarosz on wed 17 nov 04
Highwater Clay 2003-2004 catalogue carries Acme Marls in 12" - 9.7" and
7.9" at 11 dollars, 6.50 and 5.00 each . DO NOT CEMENT LEGS onto them.
They must be flipped over after each use and I use a pencil to x the top
after each use so I know to flip to other side next time I use them.
WHY ??? Because after repeated use they WILL warp out and so will your
plates. I have learned this by trial and error. The plate setters I have now
have lasted yrs and yrs with the flipping over each time.... YES you take
a chance not kiln washing the setters but its not worth it to me to have to
buy the things over and over and over. if your glazes are really that
runny then I would suggest making pancakes that are heavily kiln washed to put
under them.
I do have posts for the kiln sitters but you can also use the 1/2" thick
posts as setters if you run out.. yes its a bit of a skill to use these
without cemented in feet but not so bad that any regular joe couldnt learn to
do it well and safely.
PS I know thats not much help when you need 14" setters maybe
just regular round thin kiln shelves would work ? I do use them to span my
"OLD" shelves for platters. I notice they have a 15 1/2" round shelf for 26
dollars at highwater.. it is 1/2" thick though which might defeat the purpose
of plate setters unless you have a really big kiln and shelf system.. PS
why 14" plates ??? Maybe you can shrink up the plates to be 12 or under ?
or make the plates a tad bigger to be a small platter... Good Luck...
and don't feel discouraged if this is what you want to do I am sure you will
find an answer and a way to do it.. Warm regards, Cat Jarosz...
V)''(V woof & >^..^< mew , Chicks with beards rule !!!
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John Rodgers on wed 17 nov 04
I regularly fire 14 inch plates -- but only to cone 6.
I couldn't find sitters for the large plates so I just put them on
shelves and fire away. I designed the plates with a foot ring, and the
plates do well on the shelves, both for bisque and glaze. I do glaze the
back or bottom side of the plate completely, but leave the foot ring
free of any glaze.
Works for me.
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
David Hendley wrote:
>I can't imagine any 14" plate setter that could withstand repeated
>cone 10 firings. I think they would have to be as thick as kiln shelves
>to be durable. At that point, what's the use, why not just use kiln shelves?
>Highwater Clays in North Carolina carries Gimson plate setters, which
>I think are the sturdiest, longest lasting brand.You buy the setter in
>whatever diameter you want, from 8" to 12", and then you buy 3 legs
>to go with it, from 1 1/4" to 3 1/4" tall, and cement them in place.
>A 12" setter with legs is about $12, + 10% packing fee, + shipping.
>
>David Hendley
>Working hard to make sure there is no mug left behind
>david@farmpots.com
>http://www.farmpots.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>
>>Beware the Roselli product that Cindy mentions, if you are firing higher
>>than earthenware temps. I thought they looked like a great idea, too, but
>>my plates looked like potato chips when fired to cone 6 with these. If
>>
>>
>you
>
>
>>really want to try them, I've got a bunch you can have for cheap....
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>>Paul B wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>i have been trying to find some plate setters that are big enough to
>>>>
>>>>
>fire
>
>
>>>>14" plates. The only ones i know of are from Bailey but the shipping
>>>>accross country plus the very high handling fee they charge would
>>>>
>>>>
>basically
>
>
>>>>double the price, so that does not work. Does anyone know where i could
>>>>
>>>>
>get
>
>
>>>>some closer to the east coast, or even some used ones?
>>>>Paul B
>>>>Falmouth, KY
>>>>
>>>>
>
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Jennifer Boyer on wed 17 nov 04
So here's my success story with plate setters although it involves a
product from Bailey Pottery in Kingston, NY so it won't help with the
shipping cost problem for the guy down south.
http://www.baileypottery.com/kilnfurniture/setters.htm
The ones at the top of the page are AWESOME. I've used them for at
least 15 years with no warping at all. I never flip them. They have ITC
on both sides. I'm firing to ^ 10/11 in gas but not reducung. Bailey
says they are from the English company Dyson which has now combined
with Acme Marles, but the Bailey setters are the original Dyson
formula. I have both the 11 /14 and 13 1/4 sizes.
There's your testimonial for the day....
Take Care
Jennifer
On Nov 17, 2004, at 10:15 AM, Cat Jarosz wrote:
> Highwater Clay 2003-2004 catalogue carries Acme Marls in 12" -
> 9.7" and
> 7.9" at 11 dollars, 6.50 and 5.00 each . DO NOT CEMENT LEGS
> onto them.
> They must be flipped over after each use and I use a pencil to x the
> top
> after each use so I know to flip to other side next time I use them.
>
> WHY ??? Because after repeated use they WILL warp out and so will
> your
> plates. I have learned this by trial and error. The plate setters
> I have now
> have lasted yrs and yrs with the flipping over each time.... YES
> you take
> a chance not kiln washing the setters but its not worth it to me to
> have to
> buy the things over and over and over. if your glazes are really
> that
> runny then I would suggest making pancakes that are heavily kiln
> washed to put
> under them.
>
************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
Michael McDowell on wed 17 nov 04
I have just bought a few plate setters from Clay Art Center in
Tacoma, WA that will accomodate ware up to 17" or so in diameter,
finished. They are supposed to be able to stand up to a high fire.
They are Acme Marls. I've been happy with the warp resistance of
their smaller 10" variety. Haven't fired the larger ones yet. They
aren't cheap. I think I paid $43.50 apiece for them, plus the stilts
to support them. I fire to cone 11. I sure hope they work... They
don't seem to offer an intermediate size.
Michael McDowell
Whatcom County, WA
Michael@McDowellPottery.com
http://www.McDowellPottery.com
Paul B on thu 18 nov 04
I found a clay supplier in texas that just happened to buy out an entire
factory that was used for making dinnerware, and he literally has thousands
of 14" plate setters that he is selling for cheap. About $33 for a box of
3, including shipping. They look pretty heavy duty.
I am sure he wouldn't mind me posting his email address here:
Gary Schlager [pes@mt-vernon.com]
-Paul
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