Janet Kaiser on fri 3 dec 04
Which has been voted the single most influential work of art over
the past 100 years?
An international poll was held amongst artists, dealers, buyers,
collectors, just about anyone concerned with The (visual) Arts by
Gordons the gin makers and sponsors of a major prize...
Go on... Guess what it was!! No cheating now... Think about it...
CLUES:
The original no longer exists...
It was ceramic...
It came up in conversation recently...
Correct answer tomorrow! :o)
Janet Kaiser
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Charles Jones on fri 3 dec 04
At 06:45 AM 12/3/2004, you wrote:
>Which has been voted the single most influential work of art over
>the past 100 years?
I saw that on the news earlier!
>CLUES:
>
>The original no longer exists...
>It was ceramic...
>It came up in conversation recently...
Further clues:
There are millions of derivative works in every major city of the world ...
It is sexist in design, being of use (mostly) to only one half of the
population ...
;-)
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Snail Scott on sat 4 dec 04
At 01:45 PM 12/3/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>Which has been voted the single most influential work of art over
>the past 100 years?
>The original no longer exists...
>It was ceramic...
>It came up in conversation recently...
'Fountain' is surely it, and I agree. The
question is not 'what is the best artwork'
or 'the best ceramics' but 'the most
influential', and the art world is still
coming to grips with all the ramifications
of Duchamp's audacious entry to the Armory
Show all those years ago. In a single act
he changed the way art is defined, and like
it or not, the influence has been profound.
-Snail Scott
wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET on sat 4 dec 04
Charles:
That's not quite true!
Years ago, when the town I then lived in elected its first female
mayor, she found that "her" office bathroom contained one of those
"porcelain art pieces".
Rather than let it go to waste, unused; she planted geraniums in it.
Flushing once a week was usually sufficient to keep them watered.
I still grin thinking about it.
Wayne Seidl
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Subject: Re: Which single work of art??
snip
There are millions of derivative works in every major city of the
world ...
It is sexist in design, being of use (mostly) to only one half of
the
population ...
;-)
Lee Love on sat 4 dec 04
Janet Kaiser wrote:
>Which has been voted the single most influential work of art over
>the past 100 years?
>
>An international poll was held amongst artists, dealers, buyers,
>collectors, just about anyone concerned with The (visual) Arts by
>Gordons the gin makers and sponsors of a major prize...
>
I think this is what happens to you if you drink too much
Gin. (you need to use one too often) ;^)
The question is a little irrelevant, in that it just
cuts off Van Gogh and Cezanne. I would pick this work (not my
favorite, but the most influential): http://tinyurl.com/3vusz
My personal choice would be Brancusi's Bird In
Flight: http://tinyurl.com/5t2jn The three most important sculptors
to me are Brancusi, Noguchi and Calder. The two most important
influences (dead, but within 100 years) on me who worked in clay are
Hamada and Noguchi.
http://www.noguchi.org/
http://www.calder.org/
There is not really a good webpage on Hamada. But look at this
. You might not recognize it as "Hamada" work:
*http://tinyurl.com/4qsc8*
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Vince Pitelka on mon 6 dec 04
> I believe folks are a little confused, about assessing the
> importance of artisitc work. I believe things like the urinal and the
> silk screen of Monroe that was also up there, are more artifacts of a
> social situation, than they are great works of art that will stand the
> test of time.
> Brancusi' Bird In Flight will stand the test of time
> and not merely be "a snapshot of the time."
Lee -
Confused? Hardly. Like you and others, I have always loved Brancusi's
"Bird in Space" (and most of his work). There are a number of versions of
the "Bird in Space" theme - the one at the Met is marble, while the one at
the Guggenheim is the well-known polished bronze version. Brancusi's work
will stand the test of time, not because of its aesthetic merit, but because
it was revolutionary, representing the essence of reductive streamlined
form, and more importantly, the sprit of the age. It represented speed and
flight, and was a pioneering example of minimalism.
Duchamp's work will also stand the test of time. It was certainly far more
revolutionary than Brancusi's, and it impacted major directions in
subsequent art. Brancusi's work influenced subsequent artists, and has
become a popular favorite, but has not had a fraction of the impact seen
from Duchamp's work.
To say that Warhol's Pop-Art "Portrait of Marilyn Monroe" or Duchamp's
"Fountain" are artifacts of a social situation rather than great works of
art is a little silly. It IS only the test of time that will determine
that. After almost a century, Duchamp's work is certainly standing up very
well to the test of time.
Snapshot of the time? Art is always a reflection of the time and place in
which it was created. Aesthetic merit is another issue, and certainly worth
considering, but hardly the key rationale for determining a great work of
art.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
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Jan Goodland-Metz on mon 6 dec 04
Yes, I have to agree, Brancusi's Bird in flight is also my choice. I saw it
years ago in Washington, DC and I still think about standing in front of it
and trying to see each inch, trying to move my eye slowly over the surface,
there is a point at which my eye just must move, and zip! I'm at the end, it
works, amazing.
Jan Goodland
Woodfiring in RI
> From: Lee Love
> My personal choice would be Brancusi's Bird In
> Flight: http://tinyurl.com/5t2jn The three most important sculptors
> to me are Brancusi, Noguchi and Calder. The two most important
> influences (dead, but within 100 years) on me who worked in clay are
> Hamada and Noguchi.
>
> http://www.noguchi.org/
> http://www.calder.org/
>
> There is not really a good webpage on Hamada. But look at this
> . You might not recognize it as "Hamada" work:
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/4qsc8*
>
>
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>
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Carl Finch on tue 7 dec 04
At 10:52 PM 12/6/2004 -0600, Vince Pitelka wrote:
>After almost a century, Duchamp's work is certainly standing up very
>well to the test of time.
"Standing up," indeed!
And for over half a century I, too, have 'stood up' before countless
examples of Duchamp's famously influential work of art, pondering, as they
say, the imponderables of life (e.g., "For a good time call ...").
Right on, as usual, Vince!
--Carl
in Medford, Oregon
Lee Love on tue 7 dec 04
Jan Goodland-Metz wrote:
>Yes, I have to agree, Brancusi's Bird in flight is also my choice. I saw it
>years ago in Washington, DC and I still think about standing in front of it
>and trying to see each inch, trying to move my eye slowly over the surface,
>there is a point at which my eye just must move, and zip! I'm at the end, it
>works, amazing.
>
I believe folks are a little confused, about assessing the
importance of artisitc work. I believe things like the urinal and the
silk screen of Monroe that was also up there, are more artifacts of a
social situation, than they are great works of art that will stand the
test of time.
Brancusi' Bird In Flight will stand the test of time
and not merely be "a snapshot of the time."
--
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/ WEB LOG
http://public.fotki.com/togeika/ Photos!
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