Marcia Selsor on sun 5 dec 04
The surface wouldn't work very well for the painting. It would be
absorbed too quickly and be very rough.
China paints are an oil/varnish base which fire at about ^018. You may
get some color but it defeats the whole idea of the china painting
technique.
Marcia
On Dec 5, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Patricia Gilmartin wrote:
> China paints are usually used as an overglaze application. But can
> anyone tell me what you get if you paint them on bisque-ware? I do
> sculpture and don't usually use glazes. Thanks
>
> **********************************************************
> Pat Gilmartin
> University of South Carolina
> Department of Geography
> 803/777-2989
> email: gilmartin-pat@sc.edu
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Paul Lewing on sun 5 dec 04
on 12/5/04 7:07 AM, Patricia Gilmartin at patricia@GWM.SC.EDU wrote:
> China paints are usually used as an overglaze application. But can
> anyone tell me what you get if you paint them on bisque-ware?
China paint are applied in a very thin layer, and so will take on the
surface characteristics of the underlying surface- sort of. So putting them
on an unglazed bisque surface will make them come out significantly less
glossy than they would on a glossy surface. Also if the background color is
not white, it will affect the color of some china paints.
There is a variation on china paints called matte paints that is designed to
be fired onto unglazed bisque, and always come out the same matte texture as
the bisque. There is not the wide range of choices of color shades that is
available in regular china paints, but you can get pretty much the entire
spectrum. It's amazing to me that they can make them bright green, since
the difference between regular china paints and matte paints is the addition
of zinc oxide. Some of the greens are obviously chrome greens, which I
would think would be turned brown by the addition of the chrome. Anyone
want to speculate on how that's possible?
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Patricia Gilmartin on sun 5 dec 04
China paints are usually used as an overglaze application. But can
anyone tell me what you get if you paint them on bisque-ware? I do
sculpture and don't usually use glazes. Thanks
**********************************************************
Pat Gilmartin
University of South Carolina
Department of Geography
803/777-2989
email: gilmartin-pat@sc.edu
**********************************************************
Paul Lewing on mon 6 dec 04
on 12/5/04 3:33 PM, Marcia Selsor at selsor@IMT.NET wrote:
> China paints are an oil/varnish base which fire at about ^018.
Not always. Traditionally, yes, but you usually get them as a dry powder,
and you can mix them with anything. I've been using them for 18 years, and
I haven't used an oil based medium more than once or twice, and only in the
last year or so. I usually use just water, but I've been experimenting
lately with lots of other water-soluble mediums.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Mishy Lowe on mon 6 dec 04
Porcelain dolls are bisqued high and then china
painted on raw clay.
--- Marcia Selsor wrote:
> The surface wouldn't work very well for the
> painting. It would be
> absorbed too quickly and be very rough.
> China paints are an oil/varnish base which fire at
> about ^018. You may
> get some color but it defeats the whole idea of the
> china painting
> technique.
> Marcia
> On Dec 5, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Patricia Gilmartin
> wrote:
>
> > China paints are usually used as an overglaze
> application. But can
> > anyone tell me what you get if you paint them on
> bisque-ware? I do
> > sculpture and don't usually use glazes. Thanks
> >
> >
>
**********************************************************
> > Pat Gilmartin
> > University of South Carolina
> > Department of Geography
> > 803/777-2989
> > email: gilmartin-pat@sc.edu
> > *
>
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Marcia Se;spr on tue 7 dec 04
>that's interesting Paul. I used the oil base mixed with powders. Are you
expanding the firing temps? I haven't worked with these in years. Thanks for
expanding my awareness. I think your work is awesome
Marcia
on 12/5/04 3:33 PM, Marcia Selsor at selsor@IMT.NET wrote:
>
>> China paints are an oil/varnish base which fire at about ^018.
>
>Not always. Traditionally, yes, but you usually get them as a dry powder,
>and you can mix them with anything. I've been using them for 18 years,
and
>I haven't used an oil based medium more than once or twice, and only in the
>last year or so. I usually use just water, but I've been experimenting
>lately with lots of other water-soluble mediums.
>Paul Lewing, Seattle
>
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