Hank Murrow on thu 9 dec 04
On Dec 9, 2004, at 5:34 AM, clennell wrote:
> Mel is absolutely right! Slides are going the way of the dodo. Can't
> wait to keep pics on Cd or
> the computer. Our slide folders are a mess. Take them out, put them
> back,
> send some to a mag, get them back, oopss forget to refile, go to a
> workshop
> pack them, forget to put them back, need them for school, don't put
> them
> back- hassle, hassle and more hassle.
> power point presentations are on this guys horizon.
Dear Tony;
I still shoot on film, but I have them make a Hi-Rez CD when it is
developed........ cheap($10.80USD) when done before the roll is cut.
Then I put all the images I want to save on my PowerBook in iPhoto,
where I can make a book of them(adding text, etc), send them via email,
edit and arrange them, or transfer them to Keynote(the Apple version of
PowerPoint) which is dandy software, BTW($70!).
I saw my show projected from a digital projector on a screen in NYC at
18 feet on the diagonal in a bright salesroom........ the wow factor
was really there. Crisp, correct color, and transitions to die for. And
that slide show can be controlled from either a CD or the laptop, so I
can change it virtually at will............ in the presentation room,
while folks are asking questions!
We are entering a new era, where the artist may be in control of
her/his media, and how it represents him/her. Now, we don't have to
wait for a Gallery or a publisher to 'like' the work......... "just do
it", to quote the Nike ad.
Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank
clennell on thu 9 dec 04
Someone very near and dear to me just received a very nice Ontario Arts
Council Award in the mail last week. A reward for 15 years of hard work.
Usually in the award procedure if you get a large envelope in the mail it
means you did not receive the award and your slides have been returned. last
week sheila got the large envelope and felt quite disappointed. didn't want
to open it. She opened it reluctantly and to her surprise there where her
slides and a cheque and letter of congratulations.
Why? Mel is absolutely right! Slides are going the way of the dodo. They
scanned her slides and kept them on a CD. Can't wait to keep pics on Cd or
the computer. Our slide folders are a mess. Take them out, put them back,
send some to a mag, get them back, oopss forget to refile, go to a workshop
pack them, forget to put them back, need them for school, don't put them
back- hassle, hassle and more hassle.
power point presentations are on this guys horizon.
cheers,
tony
Tony and Sheila Clennell
Sour Cherry Pottery
4545 King Street
Beamsville, Ontario
CANADA L0R 1B1
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com/current_news/news_letter.html
Hank Murrow on fri 10 dec 04
On Dec 10, 2004, at 5:16 PM, Lee Love wrote:
>
>> We are entering a new era, where the artist may be in control of
>> her/his media, and how it represents him/her. Now, we don't have to
>> wait for a Gallery or a publisher to 'like' the work......... "just do
>> it", to quote the Nike ad.
>
> Hank, I've thought about this carefully. I think we are still a ways
> off. And what you are doing (scanning from film to CD) currently makes
> the best sense, because film is still way ahead of digital as far as
> quality. Of course, you don't even need a megapixel camera for images
> to
> put on the web or view on your computer. But replacement of the
> capabilities of film, in a way that is affordable, is still a few
> years off.
Dear Lee;
I feel both your site and your forum demonstrate the new reality to
which I was referring. You have connected yourself to a reservoir of
interested people who find your daily story compelling. Sure, you do
the gallery thing, but the way you are sharing your passion beyond the
limitations and restrictions of galleries shows a viable path for
present and future potters. Now if they could just give us a DVD that
holds ten times as much! BTW, my Minolta SRT-101 with its collection of
lenses and lighting will not be for sale in the foreseeable future,
though it may get a baby digi-brother.
Cheers, Hank
kterpstra on fri 10 dec 04
We are at the tail end of hiring two adjuncts in our department for
ceramics and painting next semester. Two thirds of the applicants sent
CD's and one third sent slides in the application packages. What does
that tell you?
Karen
Ps. Congrats to Sheila!!!! (and patiently waiting for my copy of the
video to arrive)
Karen Terpstra
La Crosse, WI
http://www.uwlax.edu/faculty/terpstra/
http://www.terpstra-lou.com
-----Original Message-----
From: clennell [mailto:clennell@SYMPATICO.CA]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: Slip, sliding away
....She opened it reluctantly and to her surprise there where her
slides and a cheque and letter of congratulations.
Why? Mel is absolutely right! Slides are going the way of the dodo. They
scanned her slides and kept them on a CD. ....
cheers,
tony
Tony and Sheila Clennell
Sour Cherry Pottery
4545 King Street
Beamsville, Ontario
CANADA L0R 1B1
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com/current_news/news_letter.html
Richard Aerni on fri 10 dec 04
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:07:27 -0600, kterpstra wrote:
>We are at the tail end of hiring two adjuncts in our department for
>ceramics and painting next semester. Two thirds of the applicants
At the risk of sounding extremely negative and jaundiced, let me ask how
many applicants you have for these positions... My experience with adjunct
teaching of ceramics in colleges is long hours for low, low wages. I've
done it a couple of times when asked, and had the time, but I can't imagine
actually applying to teach on an adjunct basis, where I might be rejected
for a more qualified candidate. Gawd, the indignity!
Of course, perhaps at your school they actually pay adjuncts a living wage.
Best,
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY
John Jensen on sat 11 dec 04
Lee;
Why in the world would you take it in to your mind to compare the influence
of an artist to a major technological invention? Talk about apples and
oranges! It really does seem that you just want to take any opportunity to
take a swipe at poor old Marcel Duchamp, who never did you any harm.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
http://www.toadhouse.com www://www.mudbugpottery.com
> Photography is a wonderful medium. I think it is
>far more influential in the art world in the last 100 years, than any
>thing DuChamp did. Photography set the painter free.
>Lee in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
>http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/ WEB LOG
Lee Love on sat 11 dec 04
Hank Murrow wrote:
> We are entering a new era, where the artist may be in control of
> her/his media, and how it represents him/her. Now, we don't have to
> wait for a Gallery or a publisher to 'like' the work......... "just do
> it", to quote the Nike ad.
Hank, I've thought about this carefully. I think we are still a ways
off. And what you are doing (scanning from film to CD) currently makes
the best sense, because film is still way ahead of digital as far as
quality. Of course, you don't even need a megapixel camera for images to
put on the web or view on your computer. But replacement of the
capabilities of film, in a way that is affordable, is still a few years off.
I did some searching on the web. A 35mm slide is 20 mega pixels. A
medium format image (60 X 70mm) is 97 mega pixels. (I thought I read
that Ceramics Monthly preferred medium format transparencies over 35mm
slides?)
The biggest problems with files this large is storage. A Nikon film
scanner scans your images at 4,000 dpi (this is a little under the
capability of 35mm) and this equals a RAW file that is 426 mb. You can't
fit two of these on a 700MB CD, which is the physical space of about
four 35mm slides. DVD is better of course. You can put 10 of these 18.2
mega pixel files on a DVD disk. Of course, you can compress the file,
but you loose quality (add noise) when you do this. Broadband and remote
storage might help, but that means you are trusting someone elses server
to store your treasures.
I lost my last year of digital photos that I took at Shimaoka's workshop
last summer. My hard drive died during my graduation trip to the Kansai.
So I really appreciate the the ease of storage film gives us. Of course,
if you print your digital images, you have a "hard copy" backup of your
digital file. A good photo printer might be a way to go.
Below is a practical comparison for print size for personal use, before
(pixelation becomes obvious):
Image Resolution Maximum Print Size
less than 640X480 Wallet size only
640X480 absolute largest, 4X6
1024X768 4X6
1152X864 5X7
1600X1200 8X10
By doing the math, you can see that this is a minimum of 150-200 pixels
per inch.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/ WEB LOG
http://public.fotki.com/togeika/ Photos!
Lee Love on sun 12 dec 04
Hank Murrow wrote:
>
> present and future potters. Now if they could just give us a DVD that
> holds ten times as much! BTW, my Minolta SRT-101 with its collection of
> lenses and lighting will not be for sale in the foreseeable future,
> though it may get a baby digi-brother.
Hi Hank,
It is just a matter of time for the storage technology.
And too, a medium that will last and not get outdated too quickly. I
use many ruined CD and DVDs in the studio as bats and ribs. My
latest desktop will burn DVDs and CDs, has a PC card slot and a Sony
memory stick slot, firewire and USBII, but it didn't come with a floppy
drive. Had to buy a USB external drive. You have to be prepared to
move all of your photo collection from one medium to another, every 5 or
so years and also write instructions in your will to have someone else
do this for you (or make archival prints.) Of course, this is most
important if photography is your art form.
From what I have been able to gleen from the web.
currently, the main advantage of 35mm compared to a 6 megapixal plus
digital, can only be seen in slides and in large enlargements. Many
commercial and artistic photographers are switching to digital. And
many using film photographers are scanning their film and printing via
ink jet, rather than traditional print processing.
Photography is a wonderful medium. I think it is
far more influential in the art world in the last 100 years, than any
thing DuChamp did. Photography set the painter free.
Here are some interesting figures below:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How Many Megapixels To Equal 35mm Film?
"As we've reported in the past and have deduced from our own tests, a
tripod mounted, high end SLR with a superb lens and ISO 100 color print
film can capture the equivalent of a 40 megapixel sensor. That's an
order of magnitude more than a 3.3 or even 4MP sensor..." - Popular
Photography, March 2001, page 55.
Kodak's Estimate (for mid-speed film) is at least 24 Megapixels
equivalent...
From AFIPs Peer Reviewed Science Paper:
35mm fast film (ISO 400 and up) = 22.11 megapixel equiv.
35mm medium speed film (ISO 100 to 200) = 54 megapixel equiv.
35mm slow speed film (circa ISO 25-80) = 124.76 megapixel equiv.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/ WEB LOG
http://public.fotki.com/togeika/ Photos!
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