Marcia Selsor on tue 14 dec 04
Robin Hopper's Ceramic Spectrum is a good start.Parlemee is out of print
Marcia Selsor
with a good 40+ years under the belt.
Each year gets better and that's the sweet mystery of it!
On Dec 14, 2004, at 7:13 PM, BJ Clark wrote:
> I'm still in college, but dead set on being a potter for at least the
> next 40 years (hopefully I'll be "decent" by then). Anyway, I just
> completed an inorganic chemistry course (today was the final) and,
> while all my electron configurations are fresh in my mind, I'd like to
> read a book or two on glaze chemistry/calculation. I'm looking for
> suggestions. The heavier on the chemistry the better. I have to wait a
> full year before the offer glaze calculation again here at my college,
> so I'd like to bone up a bit before then.
> Any suggestions from the glaze geeks out there?
> Thanks,
> BJ Clark
> Grand Junction, CO
> Mesa State College
>
> Where our student sale is bigger than ever, and we're making more than
> ever.
BJ Clark on tue 14 dec 04
I'm still in college, but dead set on being a potter for at least the
next 40 years (hopefully I'll be "decent" by then). Anyway, I just
completed an inorganic chemistry course (today was the final) and,
while all my electron configurations are fresh in my mind, I'd like to
read a book or two on glaze chemistry/calculation. I'm looking for
suggestions. The heavier on the chemistry the better. I have to wait a
full year before the offer glaze calculation again here at my college,
so I'd like to bone up a bit before then.
Any suggestions from the glaze geeks out there?
Thanks,
BJ Clark
Grand Junction, CO
Mesa State College
Where our student sale is bigger than ever, and we're making more than
ever.
Daniel Semler on wed 15 dec 04
Hi BJ,
Check out my website book list. http://clayosmos.com/books.html
Here's a couple of books to look out for :
Parmelee and Harmon, Ceramic Glazes.
This is a good text with a couple of chapters on glaze calc. Its got many
interesting things in it. It can be had secondhand.
Frazer, Harry. Glazes for the Craft Potter.
Have always liked this book. It has a very readable style. It has a couple
of introductions to calc.
Rhodes, Daniel. Clay and Glazes for the Potter.
This book has a couple of chapters on calc. and an abundance of other info.
A classic I would think. Good on materials, not particularly chem. heavy.
John Hesselberth and Ron Roy, Mastering Cone 6 Glazes.
This is a book that uses the tools of glaze calculation, dilatometry and
leach testing, to really understand what your glaze is doing and why. It
addresses practical problems with these tools. It does not teach glaze calc.
per se and is not heavy on chem, but certainly shows you what you can do with
it.
On my website there is an article I wrote about how one aspect of glaze
calculation works, going from a recipe to the unity formula. Its at
http://clayosmos.com/recipeToFormula.html
If you want a really technical book on ceramics its hard to go past (its also
hard to lift :)) Kingery, Bowen and Uhlmann - no glaze calc. though.
HTH
D (glaze geek "I do carry glaze test tiles in my pocket, and take them to
parties :)")
mailtoandrew@FSMAIL.NET on wed 15 dec 04
Hi BJ,
You re volunteering for chemistry !
Two good glaze chemistry books, both being fairly technically orientated
are noted below. If pushed for one I d say the Taylor and Bull. Cant say
if both are still in print but ...
Ceramics Glaze Technology
Taylor J.R., Bull A.C.
Pergamon Press. 1986
Ceramic Glazes. 3rd edition
Parmellee C.W.
Cahners Books 1973
All the best with the studies,
Andrew
Cynthia Bracker on wed 15 dec 04
In addition to what everyone else has said, I would add to the list
Ceramic Handbook by McKee. It's published by Star publishing (I think)
I don't carry it and neither does Steve (Branfman - The Potter's Shop),
so I'm not sure where you might find it. Check with the big online
places that people here have mentioned in the past. Otherwise, Steve
does have quite a few out of print books, including, I think, the
Parmalee text.
Cindy Bracker
BJ Clark wrote:
> I'm still in college, but dead set on being a potter for at least the
> next 40 years (hopefully I'll be "decent" by then). Anyway, I just
> completed an inorganic chemistry course (today was the final) and,
> while all my electron configurations are fresh in my mind, I'd like to
> read a book or two on glaze chemistry/calculation. I'm looking for
> suggestions. The heavier on the chemistry the better. I have to wait a
> full year before the offer glaze calculation again here at my college,
> so I'd like to bone up a bit before then.
> Any suggestions from the glaze geeks out there?
> Thanks,
> BJ Clark
> Grand Junction, CO
> Mesa State College
>
> Where our student sale is bigger than ever, and we're making more than
> ever.
>
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Peter on wed 15 dec 04
From: "Cynthia Bracker"
Subject: Re: Suggest: Glaze Book (Heavy on the Chemistry Please)
<< In addition to what everyone else has said, I would add to the list
Ceramic Handbook by McKee. It's published by Star publishing (I think)
I don't carry it and neither does Steve (Branfman - The Potter's Shop),
so I'm not sure where you might find it. Check with the big online
places that people here have mentioned in the past.>>
There's a copy available thru half.com:
http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1212514&AID=5596526&PID=284433
Peter
NM
John Hesselberth on wed 15 dec 04
Neither of these is in print although Parmallee can be found on the
used book market pretty often. It took me more than a year to snag a
copy of Taylor and Bull. One that I believe is still in print is
Chemistry of Glasses by A. Paul, second edition 1990. It is full of
partial differential equations and other good stuff--enough to curl
your hair. All three of these are only for the techno-potter who has a
pretty good foundation in science. Taylor and Bull is my choice of the
best and probably has the most practical info in it also. It is also
the most readable in my opinion. I have them all, but only reach for
Taylor and Bull except on rare occasion. None of these three will help
you make an attractive glaze but they will ground you in the chemistry
theory.
Regards, John
On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, at 06:36 AM, mailtoandrew@FSMAIL.NET
wrote:
> Ceramics Glaze Technology
> Taylor J.R., Bull A.C.
> Pergamon Press. 1986
>
> Ceramic Glazes. 3rd edition
> Parmellee C.W.
> Cahners Books 1973
John Hesselberth
http://www.frogpondpottery.com
http://www.masteringglazes.com
Ivor and Olive Lewis on thu 16 dec 04
Dear B.J Clark,
If you are looking for texts that are "heavy" in the sense that they
give the rational behind Glaze and Clay theory using mathematical
formulae to present facts and theories then Kingery, Bowen and
Uhlmann, "Introduction to Ceramics"; ISBN 0-471-47860-1 is the
defining undergraduate textbook.
It is not a book that will tell you how to manipulate Unity Formulae
or glaze recipes but it will enable you to work out for yourself why
the things we use to make ceramic fabrics and glazes do the things
they do.
I know of no text that would teach you how to do the Thermodynamic
calculations To get there you will have to rely on using the general
principles you have already learned from your Physical Chemistry Prof.
Kingery et al do have a chapter on the interpretation of Ceramic Phase
Diagrams.
karen gringhuis on fri 17 dec 04
BJ -
Speaking as someone who is a glaze fiend and has huge
respect for technical knowledge and its role in artist
creativity, I suggest you arm yourself with a Cushing
HANDBOOK. Cushing not only studied glaze and raw
mats. at NYSCC at Alfred Univ. as a grad student, he
went on to teach both there for MANY years. Bottom
line - he boils it down and sorts it out to what a
potter/artist needs to know - and WHY - and most
importantly, how it all fits together.
Also do you have a good computer program? I suggest
HyperGlaze now avail. for both Mac AND Windows.
Richard Burkett has designed it as a teaching tool as
well as calculation aid, etc.
You can read a lot of technical chemistry ( and I'm
not saying don't do this) but keep a weather eye on
how useful it is or isn't in day to day clay work.
One can fall into the "blue serge suit" trap - "It's
like peeing in a blue serge suit - it gives a nice
warm feeling but doesn't accomplish much."
Good luck!
=====
Karen Gringhuis
KG Pottery
Box 607 Alfred NY 14802
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BJ Clark on fri 17 dec 04
Thanks everyone for the recommendations. I got the Parmallee book from
The Potters Shop ($90, ouch). I already have Cushing's handbook so
between those two, and if one of my family members buys anything off my
Amazon wishlist, I think I'm set.
Thanks everyone for all the help!
BJ
On Dec 17, 2004, at 10:55 AM, karen gringhuis wrote:
> BJ -
>
> Speaking as someone who is a glaze fiend and has huge
> respect for technical knowledge and its role in artist
> creativity, I suggest you arm yourself with a Cushing
> HANDBOOK. Cushing not only studied glaze and raw
> mats. at NYSCC at Alfred Univ. as a grad student, he
> went on to teach both there for MANY years. Bottom
> line - he boils it down and sorts it out to what a
> potter/artist needs to know - and WHY - and most
> importantly, how it all fits together.
>
> Also do you have a good computer program? I suggest
> HyperGlaze now avail. for both Mac AND Windows.
> Richard Burkett has designed it as a teaching tool as
> well as calculation aid, etc.
>
> You can read a lot of technical chemistry ( and I'm
> not saying don't do this) but keep a weather eye on
> how useful it is or isn't in day to day clay work.
> One can fall into the "blue serge suit" trap - "It's
> like peeing in a blue serge suit - it gives a nice
> warm feeling but doesn't accomplish much."
>
> Good luck!
>
> =====
> Karen Gringhuis
> KG Pottery
> Box 607 Alfred NY 14802
>
>
>
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