Bonnie Thompson on wed 26 jan 05
Whenever I read about disposing of clay scraps, I see suggestions for
MINIMIZING the quantity of clay that might need to be disposed of (i.e.
reusing scraps by recycling, etc.) but I never see anyone put in writing
specifically what to do with the rest of it. I have bags of dried Miller
Clay scraps that have no other chemicals added beyond those found in tap
water. I really need to dispose of it before it buries my workspace--HELP!
Bonnie Thompson
NH
Gary Harvey on wed 26 jan 05
Why don't you reclaim it? Or is it not reusable? I would add water to it
till it softens then use my ball bench and beat it across the wire , then
wedge it, weight it and then turn it. If you want to know what I am talking
about email me off list. G.W. Harvey prettypaos@academicplanet.com
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From: "Bonnie Thompson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: "Throwing Away" Clay
> Whenever I read about disposing of clay scraps, I see suggestions for
> MINIMIZING the quantity of clay that might need to be disposed of (i.e.
> reusing scraps by recycling, etc.) but I never see anyone put in writing
> specifically what to do with the rest of it. I have bags of dried Miller
> Clay scraps that have no other chemicals added beyond those found in tap
> water. I really need to dispose of it before it buries my workspace--HELP!
>
> Bonnie Thompson
> NH
>
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Mike Gordon on wed 26 jan 05
On Jan 26, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Bonnie Thompson wrote:
> I have bags of dried Miller
> Clay scraps that have no other chemicals added beyond those found in
> tap
> water. I really need to dispose of it before it buries my
> workspace--HELP!
>
Bonnie,When I was teaching high school, at the end of the year I would
find lots of bags of clay in various stages of hardness and amounts
left in the bags in kids lockers. I found a Dr. that worked with
handicapped kids, gave him about 100lbs. Leave a message at the local
clay store "free clay, you pick up" Bingo it's gone. Mike Gordon
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Les on wed 26 jan 05
Bonnie -
Unless the clay "scraps" are totally contminated with glazes, etc. pour some
water over them in a 20 litre bucket and reclaim it for use again. There
certainly isn't any good reason for just disposing of it unless you are
unable to wedge and knead the recaimed clay. You may be throwing away a lot
of money.... not necesarily as clay but as finshed product. Just my
thoughts........
Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay on VAncouver Island.
lcrimp@shaw.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Thompson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:59 AM
Subject: "Throwing Away" Clay
> Whenever I read about disposing of clay scraps, I see suggestions for
> MINIMIZING the quantity of clay that might need to be disposed of (i.e.
> reusing scraps by recycling, etc.) but I never see anyone put in writing
> specifically what to do with the rest of it. I have bags of dried Miller
> Clay scraps that have no other chemicals added beyond those found in tap
> water. I really need to dispose of it before it buries my workspace--HELP!
>
> Bonnie Thompson
> NH
>
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Crystal Nolfo~Brown on thu 27 jan 05
Hi Bonnie,
I've wondered about the same thing. I've experimented with several clays
and have some mixed scraps that I wanted to get rid of but didn't know how.
Do you have any holes in your yard that need filling? LOL. I wondered if it
was ok to just bury it. Let's see who jumps in on this one. I finally
decided instead that I will use it to make bisqued slump/hump molds and
texture stamps. But I will be interested to see if someone actually posts a
suggestion to "dispose" of the material without it being fired first.
:o)
Crystal
Bill Karaffa on thu 27 jan 05
Why anyone would throw away clay is beyond me, after all you paid for it
didn't you. Dry it out, break it up and put it in a bucket with a lot of
water to let it slack. Let it dry till you can scoop it out of the bucket
and put it to good use. If for some reason you have some clay that is
contaminated it is after all just earth. Added it to a sandy area of garden
to improve water retention or make yourself a horseshoe pit.
Bill Karaffa
Firemouth Pottery and Gallery
http://fp1.centurytel.net/karaffa
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Lee Love on thu 27 jan 05
Crystal Nolfo~Brown wrote:
>Do you have any holes in your yard that need filling? LOL. I wondered if it
>was ok to just bury it. Let's see who jumps in on this one.
>
What we did at my teacher's workshop to fill in holes in his
studio that has a wonderful knobby dirt floor, and for similar ground
around the Kura (traditional warehouse where we packed pots for
shipping) was mix one part earth with one part contaminated clay (clay
that had junk in it, that we couldn't recycle.) If I ever built my
"dream studio", I would want a traditional gate house and also have a
dirt floor in part of the throwing area, that works well for "wet storage."
We would mix the two, then pound it with a pounder that was made from
a log cylinder with two boards that were used as handles. This makes
a really wonderful floor surface and would be good for filling holes in
the driveway.
Clay by itself is not so good. When it rains, it turns into
slip and makes a mess.
I learned a lot of stuff like this during my apprenticeship
that is almost useless in "modern life." ;-)
--
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Stephen on thu 27 jan 05
I reclaim almost everything. Even the settlings at the bottom of my water
bucket that I know is part glaze part clay, from wiping glazed greenware.
It becomes my leven for my sour dough. The extra flux the glaze may have is
not enough to mess up my clay. nor are the oxides in the glaze. I use few
toxic materials and am carful with them.I often mix large quantities of
clay so the water sits there until I am ready.
Stephen
wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET on thu 27 jan 05
Lee:
Not so useless. Here in the states, rammed earth homes, (walls and
floors made from one part earth, one part straw, and one part
cement) are in vogue currently. I'm saving your post for the info
about the compactor. The gas-powered one I rented for a week doing
some landscaping left me with a decided-d-d ch-h-hat-ter-r-r-rinng
in myy-y-y-y aaar-r-r-rmm-m n-n-nner-r-r-rvv-vees-s for almost two
weeks afterward. Won't do that again.
That floor surface sounds just right for a wet-ware storage room.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:28 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: "Throwing Away" Clay
Crystal Nolfo~Brown wrote:
>Do you have any holes in your yard that need filling? LOL. I
wondered if it
>was ok to just bury it. Let's see who jumps in on this one.
>
What we did at my teacher's workshop to fill in holes in his
studio that has a wonderful knobby dirt floor, and for similar
ground
around the Kura (traditional warehouse where we packed pots for
shipping) was mix one part earth with one part contaminated clay
(clay
that had junk in it, that we couldn't recycle.) If I ever built
my
"dream studio", I would want a traditional gate house and also
have a
dirt floor in part of the throwing area, that works well for "wet
storage."
We would mix the two, then pound it with a pounder that was made
from
a log cylinder with two boards that were used as handles. This
makes
a really wonderful floor surface and would be good for filling holes
in
the driveway.
Clay by itself is not so good. When it rains, it turns
into
slip and makes a mess.
I learned a lot of stuff like this during my
apprenticeship
that is almost useless in "modern life." ;-)
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/ WEB LOG
http://public.fotki.com/togeika/ Photos!
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claybair on fri 28 jan 05
Bonnie,
Being born of 2 parents who experienced the Depression I am a big proponent
of recycling.
During my year long plate making adventure I had a lot of trimming and
plates that hit the reclaim bucket.
My system is pretty simple...
I keep a 5 gal. reclaim bucket by my wheel (on casters).
It gets all wet/dry trimming and throwing bucket water & slurry.
It never gets really dry and I have never crushed the clay.... frankly I
don't want to kick up all that clay dust.
I mix it with one of those metal paint mixers in my drill.
I let it sit in the bucket if I'm too busy to get to it right away.
Then I scoop it onto some 1" scrap plywood and let it sit on a shelf.
I try to scoop it into vertical globs so it gets exposed to more air.
If it's pretty wet I wait until it sets up a bit then using a metal scraper
cut into it making crude slices that are exposed to the air.
Once it is manageable I pop it into the plastic clay bags and slam it on my
concrete floor which does a pretty fair job wedging it.
It needs minimal wedging from the bag.
Now the kicker........ I use this clay to make my production items..... soap
dishes and garden art. As it turns out... the sales of these have rescued me
at more shows than I care to admit admit! One small soap dish pays for a bag
of clay!!!!! One garden art rebar flower pays for 4 new bags of clay!!!!!
The only time I throw away clay is when it is contaminated e.g. stuff on the
floor.
With this system I never have more than 2 reclaim 5 gallon buckets for this
purpose at anytime.
I hope this helps.
Gayle Bair
Tucson AZ - where I already have work in a shop.....and BTW they loved the
garden art and soap dishes!
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Harvey
Why don't you reclaim it? Or is it not reusable? I would add water to it
till it softens then use my ball bench and beat it across the wire , then
wedge it, weight it and then turn it. If you want to know what I am talking
about email me off list. G.W. Harvey prettypaos@academicplanet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Thompson"
> Whenever I read about disposing of clay scraps, I see suggestions for
> MINIMIZING the quantity of clay that might need to be disposed of (i.e.
> reusing scraps by recycling, etc.) but I never see anyone put in writing
> specifically what to do with the rest of it. I have bags of dried Miller
> Clay scraps that have no other chemicals added beyond those found in tap
> water. I really need to dispose of it before it buries my workspace--HELP!
>
> Bonnie Thompson
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Lee Love on fri 28 jan 05
wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET wrote:
>That floor surface sounds just right for a wet-ware storage room.
>
>
>
I forgot to mention, that you lay the 50/50 mix down, and then
sprinkle water from a flower watering can so it is a little bit soft.
Then you pound it, and another layer and wet it, pound again. You do
this until you have the amount down that you require.
--
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
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