jen on sat 29 jan 05
Hi,
I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
input.
Ann Brink on sat 29 jan 05
Yes, you can. I suggest holding your top temp. for at least 15 minutes -
this will benefit the glazed pieces.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
----- Original Message ----- > I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher
who needs some advice. Can I
> fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
> with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
> input.
Saultman.com on sat 29 jan 05
Hi Jen,
Yes you can. Of course you don't want your glazed pieces to touch any
other ware. Give the glazed pieces a little more spacing than you would
for greenware so that the heat circulates around the glazed pieces more
generously.
On Jan 29, 2005, at 10:09 AM, jen wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can
> I
> fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces
> painted
> with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
> input.
>
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Victoria E. Hamilton on sat 29 jan 05
Jen,
We do this fairly routinely in my studio - greenware, greenware with
underglaze applied, and lowfire glazed pieces all together in an 04 firing.
Seems to work out just fine. Just need to remember that, while the naked
greenware can nest, stack and touch each other, it's best that pieces with
underglaze are left on their own, and absolutely lowfire pieces with lowfire
glaze must not touch each other, or any other pieces. Hope this helps.
Victoria Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA
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Hi,
I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
input.
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Donna Nicosia on sat 29 jan 05
AS I HAVE A LARGE KILN I DO IT ALL THE TIME WITH NO PROBLEMS. DONNA
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Subject: firing bisque and underglazed bisque in the same load
Hi,
I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces
painted
with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
input.
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pottery@GARYRFERGUSON.COM on sat 29 jan 05
Jen:
You can but you may not want to.
Typically a bisque firing is done very slowly to make sure all the water is
burned off. You can also pack an all bisque kiln a lot tighter by stacking
pieces and having pieces actually touch.
With a glaze firing the pieces can't touch or be stacked but you can usually
fire considerably faster.
But mixing bisque and glaze pieces in the same kiln is a good way to fill up
a kiln if you only have a few pieces of each. I would try and separate the
two different types on different kiln shelves though.
Gary Ferguson
http://www.garyrferguson.com
Clay Artist
Nampa, ID 83687
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Craig Clark on sat 29 jan 05
Jen, yes you can. Just be certain that non of the pieces with glaze on
them come into contact with any of the other pieces and that the glazes
mature at 04.
Hope this helps
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
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Eleanora Eden on sun 30 jan 05
I am mixing kilns more and more. This question is just for
underglaze, but I also mix glaze kilns with other stuff. Refire kilns
mix well with bisque kilns too and I have no problems. Since my kiln
tends to be cooler and go slower on the bottom, the raw ware to be
bisqued would be on the bottom, and the glaze stuff on top.
Eleanora
>Hi,
>I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
>fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
>with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
>input.
>
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terryh on sun 30 jan 05
jen wrote
>I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
>fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
>with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
>input.
i will not, in general. it depends on the low fire glaze you use. some red
and orange colour will fade when fired together with bisque. black, blue,
green, brown, ... other colours do OK, as far as i experienced.
oh, you asked about "underglazed"! again, depending on the colour.
terry
terry hagiwara
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Elizabeth Priddy on mon 31 jan 05
Forgive me if someone has offered this already,
A good reason to keep your bisque at the bottom is that if a piece blows it
will just fall on other bisque and not throw bits onto all of the glaze work.
Potter friend learned this the hard way.
Eleanora Eden wrote:
I am mixing kilns more and more. This question is just for
underglaze, but I also mix glaze kilns with other stuff. Refire kilns
mix well with bisque kilns too and I have no problems. Since my kiln
tends to be cooler and go slower on the bottom, the raw ware to be
bisqued would be on the bottom, and the glaze stuff on top.
Eleanora
>Hi,
>I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
>fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
>with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
>input.
>
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Bacia Edelman on tue 1 feb 05
Absolutely. The underglazes are not glassy so you don't really have to
worry about the work touching in the kiln.
Bacia
Hi,
I am a new-to-ceramics- but old art teacher who needs some advice. Can I
fire several pieces to bisque , cone 04, with several other pieces painted
with low fire underglaze on them? ( also to cone 04) I'd appreciate any
input.
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Bacia Edelman
Madison, Wisconsin http://users.skynet.be/russel.fouts/bacia.htm
http://www.silverhawk.com/artisan/clay/edelman/index.html
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