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dust masks and beards

updated tue 1 feb 05

 

Vince Pitelka on sat 29 jan 05


> But what do you do about achieving such a seal for those of us with
> beards? Last time I saw you, your beard looked quite a bit like mine, if
> less grey.
> Shaving my beard is not an option, I'm afraid. The last time I was
> without a beard was shortly before my divorce in 1974.

Maurice -
The hard-core OSHA fanatics say that people with beards should not bother
with respirators at all. Just like they say that workers in the employ of
others should not wear respirators at all unless their employees provide an
OSHA-approved respirator training program. This the point where federal
guidelines fail completely. We must go beyond federal guidelines and act
rationally.

I have been using a respirator sensibly for 35 years. I wet my beard well
before putting on my respirator, and I tighten the staps firmly. I know
that the seal is not quite as good as on a clean-shaven face, but I too am
unwilling to loose my beard. I've had mine even longer than you. I have
always used top-quality respirators, and I replace the dust filters
frequently. Immediately after taking off the respirator I rinse my face and
beard thoroughly. I believe that I am getting very good protection.
Best wishes -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/

Linda Ferzoco on sun 30 jan 05


Those with beards are still getting many, many logs of protection from the
particulates. Even those of us who (mostly) don't have facial hair, don't
have 100.00%; more like 99.99%. Vince's well-considered procedure probably
gets him 99.95%. What's a few hundreths of a percent among friends? Even
Ivory soap is only 99.44% pure!

Linda, who has an old photo of herself, certified for respirator use ONLY
beardless. Makes me scratch my chin!

Louis Katz on mon 31 jan 05


Beard/ Shaving / etc. Is an option.
For before and after pictures look at:
Louis in Grad school with beard:
http://falcon.tamucc.edu/~lkatz/LK/picturesof/a.jpg
Without:
http://falcon.tamucc.edu/~lkatz/LK/picturesof/b.jpg

These pictures are not as long ago as you all are talking about, but
are from 1980 or so.

Only slightly related,

Ferguson called me into his office in 1979 just before the school year
started. He said, "Louie, you aren't gay are you?"
I said "no".
" Do you want a girl friend?" He asks.
I say, "yes".
He says, " your going to have to clean up your act, you know, hair
combing showers, things like that."

I decide to run an experiment. I get some new jeans, a haircut and
shave. I decided to make it a real test.
I shave twice a day, trim my nails, carry a toothbrush to school so I
can brush after meals. I comb my hair every few hours. I got a little
carried away.
I ironed my blue jeans and shirts. I polished my boots and wiped them
down every day. Just to make sure that some grunge wan't goofing
thinkgs up I polished my belt. I cleaned all of the grunge that
collects on glasses. I brought a spare shirt to the studio in case I
got splattered.
I considered shirt pocket protectors, but decided that was not really
in the original advice from Ferguson.

So a few days latter I see this girl(Gail Busch) at Kay's Rockhill Bar,
talking with some of the other ceramics students. I figure she must be
from the Art Institute so I walk up to her, put out my hand and say, "
Hi , I'd like you to meet Louis".
Three weeks later she writes home to her mother, "Mom, I've met this
great guy, but he's awfully clean cut".

Louis



On Jan 29, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Vince Pitelka wrote:

>> But what do you do about achieving such a seal for those of us with
>> beards? Last time I saw you, your beard looked quite a bit like
>> mine, if
>> less grey.
>> Shaving my beard is not an option, I'm afraid. The last time I was
>> without a beard was shortly before my divorce in 1974.
>
> Maurice -
> The hard-core OSHA fanatics say that people with beards should not
> bother
> with respirators at all. Just like they say that workers in the
> employ of
> others should not wear respirators at all unless their employees
> provide an
> OSHA-approved respirator training program. This the point where
> federal
> guidelines fail completely. We must go beyond federal guidelines and
> act
> rationally.
>
> I have been using a respirator sensibly for 35 years. I wet my beard
> well
> before putting on my respirator, and I tighten the staps firmly. I
> know
> that the seal is not quite as good as on a clean-shaven face, but I
> too am
> unwilling to loose my beard. I've had mine even longer than you. I
> have
> always used top-quality respirators, and I replace the dust filters
> frequently. Immediately after taking off the respirator I rinse my
> face and
> beard thoroughly. I believe that I am getting very good protection.
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
> Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
> vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
> http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
>
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