Larry Kruzan on sun 30 jan 05
Hi William,
I am so glad that you added that "most" when you said that "most could
lose weight" because that certainly is not the case. I am a 50 year
old disabled vet that used to run 10 miles a day, do 77 pushups in two
minutes and 44 sit-ups in two minutes (my two mile run time when I was
30 was 14:30), I was the picture of health and vigor - until I fell off
a missile launcher and broke my hip, back and other assorted goodies.
Suddenly I went from burning 4000 calories a day to needing 800 in a
wheelchair. I did reduce my intake but was unable to get to the right
point. Face it, 800 calories is about a cheeseburger and I was used to
eating much more.
That was 1985, fast forward to 2004 and I have jumped from 190 pounds
to the huge 360 pounds + I was at peak weight. I was a not a pretty
sight and I was very unhappy about it. No diet could get me to lose
any weight and there was no way I could get enough physical exertion to
work it off. So May 5th I had gastric bypass surgery. I now weigh 240
and the weight is still dropping. I feel great and the pottery is a
new lease on life for me. It took VERY drastic measures to make this
happen, not to mention $35,000 that I paid to have it done (insurance
company said it was cosmetic surgery).
There are folks that have all kinds of addictions and excesses.
Smoking, drinking, drugs, sex and food is certainly one of them. I
hope you never find your weak point is but we all have them. I beat
smoking, I was addicted to pain killers, thanks to well meaning doctors
and I beat both by "will power", Food was another matter.
I look forward to meeting you at NCECA if you are going, I'll be the
guy in the red power wheelchair, grey beard and moving full speed -
watch your toes!!
Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
On Jan 30, 2005, at 1:50 PM, William Melstrom wrote:
> Linda, I made an observation, there was no comment attached. Do you
> think
> there was an implied comment? But, since YOU brought it up...
> I wish you the best of health. The kid was pretty clearly unhealthy.
> I've
> lost weight in my lifetime, and believe most can do the same, it simply
> takes willpower. I have little sympathy for those who are overweight
> and
> unhealthy due to a simple lack of willpower. Such people burden our
> health
> care system, and take money out of my pocket. Obesity is a crisis in
> the
> U.S., and pretending that it isn't doesn't help the situation.
> I made no comment about what caused the kid's obesity. It doesn't
> really
> matter.
> I have no doubt that I am opening a can of worms here. Call me
> politically
> incorrect and despise me. I feel that I have stated nothing but the
> truth,
> and that a lot of people who are afraid to admit it in a public forum
> would
> agree with me.
> William Melstrom
>
>> William, If your comment comes from this reasoning:
>>
>> This kid spent all his time sitting at computers
>> This kid is obese
>> Sitting at computers all the time leads to obesity
>>
>> then I'll agree with you.
>>
>> If you meant this:
>>
>> this kid is obese
>> this kid is a troubled
>> all obese kids are troubled
>>
>> Enough already. There are tons of obese kids today. How many of them
> are
>> troubled enough to do that? Obesity doesn't cause what this kid did
>> but
> it
>> may be that other things in his life led to both the obesity and the
> strange
>> behavior. The parents were clearly happy to have him out of the way.
>>
>> I'm short, fat, of Italian American descent and a woman and see one
>> of my
>> aspects/traits sterotyped all the time.
>>
>> At least with clay, I have visions of pre-historic goddesses who
> represented
>> the fullness of life.
>>
>> Off my soapbox now.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:56:59 -0000, William Melstrom
>> wrote:
>>> There was a blurb regarding this case on the front page of the
>>> Austin,
> Texas
>>> daily paper business section. Said the kid was sentenced to 18
>>> months in
>>> prison and 10 months (?) community service. "Parson's version of
>>> Blaster
>>> crippled more than 48,000 computers." There was a picture of the
>>> kid --
>>> although just a head shot, you could see that he was obese.
>>>
>>> William Melstrom
>
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Linda Ferzoco on sun 30 jan 05
William, If your comment comes from this reasoning:
This kid spent all his time sitting at computers
This kid is obese
Sitting at computers all the time leads to obesity
then I'll agree with you.
If you meant this:
this kid is obese
this kid is a troubled
all obese kids are troubled
Enough already. There are tons of obese kids today. How many of them are
troubled enough to do that? Obesity doesn't cause what this kid did but it
may be that other things in his life led to both the obesity and the strange
behavior. The parents were clearly happy to have him out of the way.
I'm short, fat, of Italian American descent and a woman and see one of my
aspects/traits sterotyped all the time.
At least with clay, I have visions of pre-historic goddesses who represented
the fullness of life.
Off my soapbox now.
Linda
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:56:59 -0000, William Melstrom
wrote:
>There was a blurb regarding this case on the front page of the Austin, Texas
>daily paper business section. Said the kid was sentenced to 18 months in
>prison and 10 months (?) community service. "Parson's version of Blaster
>crippled more than 48,000 computers." There was a picture of the kid --
>although just a head shot, you could see that he was obese.
>
>William Melstrom
William Melstrom on sun 30 jan 05
Linda, I made an observation, there was no comment attached. Do you think
there was an implied comment? But, since YOU brought it up...
I wish you the best of health. The kid was pretty clearly unhealthy. I've
lost weight in my lifetime, and believe most can do the same, it simply
takes willpower. I have little sympathy for those who are overweight and
unhealthy due to a simple lack of willpower. Such people burden our health
care system, and take money out of my pocket. Obesity is a crisis in the
U.S., and pretending that it isn't doesn't help the situation.
I made no comment about what caused the kid's obesity. It doesn't really
matter.
I have no doubt that I am opening a can of worms here. Call me politically
incorrect and despise me. I feel that I have stated nothing but the truth,
and that a lot of people who are afraid to admit it in a public forum would
agree with me.
William Melstrom
> William, If your comment comes from this reasoning:
>
> This kid spent all his time sitting at computers
> This kid is obese
> Sitting at computers all the time leads to obesity
>
> then I'll agree with you.
>
> If you meant this:
>
> this kid is obese
> this kid is a troubled
> all obese kids are troubled
>
> Enough already. There are tons of obese kids today. How many of them
are
> troubled enough to do that? Obesity doesn't cause what this kid did but
it
> may be that other things in his life led to both the obesity and the
strange
> behavior. The parents were clearly happy to have him out of the way.
>
> I'm short, fat, of Italian American descent and a woman and see one of my
> aspects/traits sterotyped all the time.
>
> At least with clay, I have visions of pre-historic goddesses who
represented
> the fullness of life.
>
> Off my soapbox now.
>
> Linda
>
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:56:59 -0000, William Melstrom
> wrote:
> >There was a blurb regarding this case on the front page of the Austin,
Texas
> >daily paper business section. Said the kid was sentenced to 18 months in
> >prison and 10 months (?) community service. "Parson's version of Blaster
> >crippled more than 48,000 computers." There was a picture of the kid --
> >although just a head shot, you could see that he was obese.
> >
> >William Melstrom
William Melstrom on mon 31 jan 05
Larry, that was a great post. I have some additional friendly comments for
you that I will send to you off-forum.
William Melstrom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Kruzan"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: wormkid
> Hi William,
>
> I am so glad that you added that "most" when you said that "most could
> lose weight" because that certainly is not the case. I am a 50 year
> old disabled vet that used to run 10 miles a day, do 77 pushups in two
> minutes and 44 sit-ups in two minutes (my two mile run time when I was
> 30 was 14:30), I was the picture of health and vigor - until I fell off
> a missile launcher and broke my hip, back and other assorted goodies.
> Suddenly I went from burning 4000 calories a day to needing 800 in a
> wheelchair. I did reduce my intake but was unable to get to the right
> point. Face it, 800 calories is about a cheeseburger and I was used to
> eating much more.
>
> That was 1985, fast forward to 2004 and I have jumped from 190 pounds
> to the huge 360 pounds + I was at peak weight. I was a not a pretty
> sight and I was very unhappy about it. No diet could get me to lose
> any weight and there was no way I could get enough physical exertion to
> work it off. So May 5th I had gastric bypass surgery. I now weigh 240
> and the weight is still dropping. I feel great and the pottery is a
> new lease on life for me. It took VERY drastic measures to make this
> happen, not to mention $35,000 that I paid to have it done (insurance
> company said it was cosmetic surgery).
>
> There are folks that have all kinds of addictions and excesses.
> Smoking, drinking, drugs, sex and food is certainly one of them. I
> hope you never find your weak point is but we all have them. I beat
> smoking, I was addicted to pain killers, thanks to well meaning doctors
> and I beat both by "will power", Food was another matter.
>
> I look forward to meeting you at NCECA if you are going, I'll be the
> guy in the red power wheelchair, grey beard and moving full speed -
> watch your toes!!
>
> Larry Kruzan
> Lost Creek Pottery
>
> On Jan 30, 2005, at 1:50 PM, William Melstrom wrote:
>
> > Linda, I made an observation, there was no comment attached. Do you
> > think
> > there was an implied comment? But, since YOU brought it up...
> > I wish you the best of health. The kid was pretty clearly unhealthy.
> > I've
> > lost weight in my lifetime, and believe most can do the same, it simply
> > takes willpower. I have little sympathy for those who are overweight
> > and
> > unhealthy due to a simple lack of willpower. Such people burden our
> > health
> > care system, and take money out of my pocket. Obesity is a crisis in
> > the
> > U.S., and pretending that it isn't doesn't help the situation.
> > I made no comment about what caused the kid's obesity. It doesn't
> > really
> > matter.
> > I have no doubt that I am opening a can of worms here. Call me
> > politically
> > incorrect and despise me. I feel that I have stated nothing but the
> > truth,
> > and that a lot of people who are afraid to admit it in a public forum
> > would
> > agree with me.
> > William Melstrom
> >
> >> William, If your comment comes from this reasoning:
> >>
> >> This kid spent all his time sitting at computers
> >> This kid is obese
> >> Sitting at computers all the time leads to obesity
> >>
> >> then I'll agree with you.
> >>
> >> If you meant this:
> >>
> >> this kid is obese
> >> this kid is a troubled
> >> all obese kids are troubled
> >>
> >> Enough already. There are tons of obese kids today. How many of them
> > are
> >> troubled enough to do that? Obesity doesn't cause what this kid did
> >> but
> > it
> >> may be that other things in his life led to both the obesity and the
> > strange
> >> behavior. The parents were clearly happy to have him out of the way.
> >>
> >> I'm short, fat, of Italian American descent and a woman and see one
> >> of my
> >> aspects/traits sterotyped all the time.
> >>
> >> At least with clay, I have visions of pre-historic goddesses who
> > represented
> >> the fullness of life.
> >>
> >> Off my soapbox now.
> >>
> >> Linda
> >>
> >> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:56:59 -0000, William Melstrom
> >> wrote:
> >>> There was a blurb regarding this case on the front page of the
> >>> Austin,
> > Texas
> >>> daily paper business section. Said the kid was sentenced to 18
> >>> months in
> >>> prison and 10 months (?) community service. "Parson's version of
> >>> Blaster
> >>> crippled more than 48,000 computers." There was a picture of the
> >>> kid --
> >>> although just a head shot, you could see that he was obese.
> >>>
> >>> William Melstrom
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