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brodnax kiln shed venting help

updated thu 10 feb 05

 

wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET on sun 6 feb 05


Liz
Would it not be possible to build a 3 sided wall out of cinderblock,
and set the shed on it? Or out of 2X4's and heat shield the insides
with HardiePanel or something similar.

That would give you whatever height you need.
Just a thought.
Best Regards,
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
ELizabeth Gowen
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 10:33 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Brodnax kiln shed venting help
Finding a metal shed ( protecting the fiber kiln from the
rain) has
been difficult unless I wanted to spend several grand and get a 12
by 20. I
did find one that arrow is selling from their web site (discontinued
model)
for around 259 plus shipping. Is 10 by 6 by 70" wall height plus 9 "
roof
peak. This is several feet shy of the roof height I wanted but the
rest is
good. I am thinking of some kind of a chimney cut through the roof
to vent
out the heat etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated as to should
it be a
hood over the kiln and a lined chimney vent or make one with soft
brick.
The kiln is an updraft, hole cut in the top of the expaned
metal
skin slightly arched.
Thanks
Liz Gowen NJ USA

ELizabeth Gowen on sun 6 feb 05


Brad and all, I also had taken a workshop with Randy after meeting him the
year before firing his kiln. I liked the idea of the kiln. Good size for me
I got his larger one. He cut the base down so I could access it easily.
I had wanted burners with baso valves but he said he was unable to
find ones he was comfotable with for ease of use with his kiln so did get
palin venturies.
Finding a metal shed ( protecting the fiber kiln from the rain) has
been difficult unless I wanted to spend several grand and get a 12 by 20. I
did find one that arrow is selling from their web site (discontinued model)
for around 259 plus shipping. Is 10 by 6 by 70" wall height plus 9 " roof
peak. This is several feet shy of the roof height I wanted but the rest is
good. I am thinking of some kind of a chimney cut through the roof to vent
out the heat etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated as to should it be a
hood over the kiln and a lined chimney vent or make one with soft brick.
The kiln is an updraft, hole cut in the top of the expaned metal
skin slightly arched.
Thanks
Liz Gowen NJ USA

ELizabeth Gowen on mon 7 feb 05


Wayne the shed has a sliding door so can't cut the tracks if I want it =
to
work. Was unable to find one with barn style doors except for the mega =
size
ones.
Liz




Liz
Would it not be possible to build a 3 sided wall out of cinderblock, and =
set
the shed on it? Or out of 2X4's and heat shield the insides with
HardiePanel or something similar.

That would give you whatever height you need.

Is 10 by 6 by 70" wall height plus 9 " roof peak. This is several feet =
shy
of the roof height I wanted but the rest is good. I am thinking of some =
kind
of a chimney cut through the roof to vent out the heat etc. Any =
suggestions
would be appreciated as to should it be a hood over the kiln and a lined
chimney vent or make one with soft brick.
The kiln is an updraft, hole cut in the top of the expaned metal
skin slightly arched.
Thanks
Liz Gowen NJ USA

_____________________________________________________________________

Earl Brunner on mon 7 feb 05


I protected my first kiln with one of these sheds, I think mine was 10x10.
I had a 14 C.F. Soft brick kiln in it. I raised the walls with two or three
rows of cinder blocks. I also left one of the roof panels unscrewed, so that
when firing I could slide the panel out to exhaust the kiln. I just slide it

Back in when the firing was done. There was a gap in the front where the
door closed, but I just used a sheet of plywood.
It was a pretty good solution. Worked for years.

Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
wjskw@BELLSOUTH.NET
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 1:50 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Brodnax kiln shed venting help

Liz
Would it not be possible to build a 3 sided wall out of cinderblock,
and set the shed on it? Or out of 2X4's and heat shield the insides
with HardiePanel or something similar.

That would give you whatever height you need.
Just a thought.
Best Regards,
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
ELizabeth Gowen
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 10:33 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Brodnax kiln shed venting help
Finding a metal shed ( protecting the fiber kiln from the
rain) has
been difficult unless I wanted to spend several grand and get a 12
by 20. I
did find one that arrow is selling from their web site (discontinued
model)
for around 259 plus shipping. Is 10 by 6 by 70" wall height plus 9 "
roof
peak. This is several feet shy of the roof height I wanted but the
rest is
good. I am thinking of some kind of a chimney cut through the roof
to vent
out the heat etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated as to should
it be a
hood over the kiln and a lined chimney vent or make one with soft
brick.
The kiln is an updraft, hole cut in the top of the expaned
metal
skin slightly arched.
Thanks
Liz Gowen NJ USA

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Debbie on tue 8 feb 05


Hi Earl,

I'm considering a similar solution for re-locating a small gas kiln and so
have been following this with interest.

My concern was that the kiln would need to draw air from around the base of
the shed so would the cinder blocks need to have gaps between them for
ventilation? Or, is leaving the shed door open enough? (I'm looking at a
metal 6 x 8' shed).

Best Wishes, Debbie



> Subject: Re: Brodnax kiln shed venting help
>
>
> I protected my first kiln with one of these sheds, I think mine
> was 10x10.
> I had a 14 C.F. Soft brick kiln in it. I raised the walls with
> two or three
> rows of cinder blocks. I also left one of the roof panels
> unscrewed, so that
> when firing I could slide the panel out to exhaust the kiln. I
> just slide it
>
> Back in when the firing was done. There was a gap in the front where the
> door closed, but I just used a sheet of plywood.
> It was a pretty good solution. Worked for years.
>
> Earl Brunner
> Las Vegas, NV

ELizabeth Gowen on wed 9 feb 05


Earl I think using the idea of the open roof panel might help if not =
solve
the problem. Not quite sure when you raised the shed up on bricks did =
you
just walk over the runner for the sliding door or configure it =
differently.
This kiln will also be used for raku and don't want anything to trip =
over
with a hot pot=20
Thanks \ Liz Gowen

Earl said
I raised the walls with two or three rows of cinder blocks. I also left =
one
of the roof panels unscrewed, so that when firing I could slide the =
panel
out to exhaust the kiln. I just slide it

Back in when the firing was done. There was a gap in the front where =
the
door closed, but I just used a sheet of plywood. It was a pretty good
solution. Worked for years.

Earl Brunner

Earl Brunner on wed 9 feb 05


The metal shed kit that I used, got some of its structural strength from
having the base plates firmly attached to the side panels. Cutting the
doorway out without some kind of modification to rigidize the area around
the opening could be a problem. It can be done though, and in your case,
with the raku movement, probably should be considered.

Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of ELizabeth Gowen
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:30 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Brodnax kiln shed venting help

Earl I think using the idea of the open roof panel might help if not solve
the problem. Not quite sure when you raised the shed up on bricks did you
just walk over the runner for the sliding door or configure it differently.
This kiln will also be used for raku and don't want anything to trip over
with a hot pot
Thanks \ Liz Gowen