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misc; whine on deaf ears; kiln shelf messes; glaze calculation

updated thu 10 feb 05

 

Lou Roess on tue 8 feb 05

for pity's sake.

On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Lili Krakowski wrote:

> Well Hermann Seger who invented the molecular formula thing lived in
> the late 19th century and there were no calculators, no
> computers.....Maybe there even were no slide rules as yet.
>
> My suggestion--and yes, I could calculate it for you, but I won't--is
> that you go to your Public Library, get one of many books on glaze,
> and learn all about the materials, and what they do, and how to
> calculate formulas.

Yes, Lili, I could go back to the late 19th century way of doing a lot
of things, but i don't think I'll give up antibiotics, my car or my
computer and I'll bet you wouldn't either.
So I won't be taking your suggestion, but I hope you'll take mine and
not be so prickly about someone asking for help on Clayart. If you
don't want to help, that's fine, but why try to put a guilt trip on me
for asking. and by the way, it didn't work. I'll be glad to use the
information from all the nice folks who are willing to help.
Lou in Colorado

Lee Love on wed 9 feb 05

for pity's sake.

Lili Krakowski wrote:

> I am not suggesting that fuel burning kilns are like S & G--I am saying that turning back looking back turns one to a pillar of salt.
>
Is this where our disdain for history came from? ;-)

>Someone wrote in a glaze recipe and asked how to raise the alumina, etc. Said he did not have a glaze calculation program yet.
>
>

I am very happy with GlazeChem.

You can use it for 90 days for free. After that, you only pay $35.00! :

http://www.dinoclay.com/software/glzchem.html

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Lee Love on thu 10 feb 05

for pity's sake.

Lou Roess wrote:

> not be so prickly about someone asking for help on Clayart. If you
> don't want to help, that's fine, but why try to put a guilt trip on me
> for asking. and by the way, it didn't work. I'll be glad to use the
> information from all the nice folks who are willing to help.

Hi Lou,

Well said. You'll always find someone here who will call
you stoopid and ask you why you ever thought of doing something that
isn't the way they do it. But for every one of those, you will find 5
with helpful suggestions. You have to take the useful and ignore the
others.

I work both ways: using calculations and also by
traditional methods. Both are good for different things. The
traditional wet mixing and lineblend tests works really well for ash
glazes and other non-industrial materials that you cannot get chemical
data on. It takes more "patience", but it is a really good method.
The best glazes in the world were made before Seger was born. But
yes, Seger helps us copy them, if his way speaks to you. ;-)

Hang in there!

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