Lili Krakowski on wed 9 feb 05
Sorry, Lou, that you think me prickly. But, to borrow a nonce-phrase, =
I do not want to be an enabler. =20
I think the archives as well as other Clayarters will tell you that I =
offer all the help I can. For such is the way of Clayart. =20
What I want to encourage however, and after 55 years in clay I feel =
entitled to an opinion, is RESPECT FOR THE CRAFT.
And respect for the craft involves basic skills and basic knowledge. =
Our materials are our tools--they are extensions of ourselves--the are =
the words in the language of clay....I cannot explain it better.
I always have serious doubts about designated drivers. Everyone goes =
out and gets bombed and some good soul offers to schlep them home, =
barfing all over her car! What is the good of that? Would it not be =
better to agree that as adults we do not need to drink if we need to =
drive?
It is the same here. If one does not have a glaze calculation =
program--and I only got GlazeMaster last year--one works with a =
calculator. And if one does not have a calculator then one uses pencil =
and paper. =20
Antibiotics are not a good example, Lou, because before antibiotics =
people died of certain conditions/diseases. No one suffered one bit =
from doing glaze calculation with pencil and paper. Clay and glaze are =
NOT instant things. If one wants the "instant" the pre-packaged and =
all that, there is plenty to be had. But even that does not circumvent =
the need to know the basics.
And last, all the glaze calculation programs in the world will NOT do =
the testing for you. And unless you know the basics you will have a =
hard time "reading" your tests.
Lili Krakowski
Editor, TIRADE: the Journal of Ridiculous Opinions
Lou Roess on wed 9 feb 05
On Feb 9, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Lili Krakowski wrote:
> Sorry, Lou, that you think me prickly. But, to borrow a nonce-phrase,
> I do not want to be an enabler.
Lili Krakowski
Editor, TIRADE: the Journal of Ridiculous Opinions
Lili, Why not? Isn't that what Clayart is all about, especially the
second definition?
Entry Word: enable
Function: verb
1 a : to provide with the means or opportunity people to earn a living> b : to make possible, practical, or easy c :
to cause to operate
2 to render able often by giving power, strength, or competence to
Synonyms empower
P.S. I loved your signature line. Sign me up for a subscription.
You're right, this whole thing is getting ridiculous. It's a matter of
people arguing about things which are a matter of opinion. Truce?
Carl D Cravens on thu 10 feb 05
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Lili Krakowski wrote:
> It is the same here. If one does not have a glaze calculation
> program--and I only got GlazeMaster last year--one works with a
> calculator. And if one does not have a calculator then one uses pencil
> and paper.
Or OpenOffice Calc. Basically a work-alike clone of Excel, except it's
free. (Along with the whole OpenOffice suite... a Word clone, a Power
Point clone, etc. and they all can exchange files with the Microsoft
versions.)
http://www.openoffice.org/
I work with Word at work and OpenOffice Writer at home. They are
basically the same, but I like OO Writer better... there are little things
that makes it easier to use. Writer was designed to be familiar to Word
users, but is less frustrating in some areas.
Calc isn't quite as advanced as Excel, but you don't need advanced
features to do glaze calculations.
I'll have to admit I've been using spreadsheet software since the days of
DOS 3.1 (Lotus 123), so I don't exactly remember what the learning curve
was like. But I think it's straight-forward enough that it shouldn't take
long for a person to learn the basic skills necessary to plug in the
appropriate formulas. (I'm surprised I can't find a basic spreadsheet
that already does this. Digital Fire claims to have a free one, but the
link results in "No input file specified." David Hewett wants $30 for
his, and though he takes PayPal, he doesn't seem to deliver
electronically. This guy http://www.alchemist.nl/bexcel1engels.htm has a
free one, but you have to fill out a form to request it, and it uses
Visual Basic in Excel, which likely means it won't run in OO Calc.)
--
Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)
Don't bother pressing that key, there is no Esc.
Carl D Cravens on thu 10 feb 05
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Lou Roess wrote:
> Lili, Why not? Isn't that what Clayart is all about, especially the
> second definition?
She's referring to recent use of the term in counselling circles. An
"enabler" is someone who helps another continue a harmful pattern.
I know a guy who is poor. He makes up excuses about why he can't go out
and get a better job right now. His church and others around him
continually give him hand-outs so he can get by. The hand-outs are
keeping him from having to find a better job. They are "enabling" his
irresponsible behavior.
I think the issue at hand here is that Lili sees you asking for a fish,
and she'd like you to learn to fish for yourself. As long as people keep
giving you fish, you'll never bother to learn to fend for yourself.
Of course, since not learning glaze science isn't exactly a destructive
behavior, if people want to continue to supply you with fish and they
don't mind doing so, there really isn't a lot of harm to the community if
you continue to live on hand-outs.
Though you may find glaze science to be rather fascinating and worth
diving into just for its own sake, not to mention the benefits of being
more self-reliant and not needing others to help you with simple glaze
problems.
--
Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)
This tagline made from 100% recycled ASCII.
David Hewitt on sat 12 feb 05
In message , Carl D Cravens writes
>I'll have to admit I've been using spreadsheet software since the days of
>DOS 3.1 (Lotus 123), so I don't exactly remember what the learning curve
>was like. But I think it's straight-forward enough that it shouldn't take
>long for a person to learn the basic skills necessary to plug in the
>appropriate formulas. (I'm surprised I can't find a basic spreadsheet
>that already does this. Digital Fire claims to have a free one, but the
>link results in "No input file specified." David Hewett wants $30 for
>his, and though he takes PayPal, he doesn't seem to deliver
>electronically. This guy http://www.alchemist.nl/bexcel1engels.htm has a
>free one, but you have to fill out a form to request it, and it uses
>Visual Basic in Excel, which likely means it won't run in OO Calc.)
The Glaze Workbook, which is an MS Excel spreadsheet file, can be
delivered electronically as is also he demonstration version.
David
>
>--
>Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)
>Don't bother pressing that key, there is no Esc.
--
David Hewitt
Web:- http://www.dhpot.demon.co.uk
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