Eleanora Eden on sat 12 feb 05
I just figured out that Houston to Pensacola is Rt 10 and bluebonnets
will have to be BEFORE the Houston fair. I am frankly a bit
intimidated by the thought of travelling through the deep south. I
figure that Rt 10 will be a pretty safe bet.
Any advice, hints, reassurance about this trip will be appreciated.
Especially coastal places where we can get off the freeway and camp
somewhere real scenic. We will have a week to make this trip.
The last time I travelled in the south was on an integrated bus in
1961, and that was just Tennessee. So I know it is a different world
and I would like to enjoy it this time around with a lot less
excitement and surprises.
Thanks in advance,
Eleanora
John Jensen on sun 13 feb 05
Eleanora;
Why are you intimidated? Life is dangerous everywhere, but I suspect that
folks in the Deep South are as friendly as you are likely to find anywhere.
Just remember to say, "sir and ma'am" at the end of every sentence and
you'll be fine. For example: Fillerup, Ma'am?...Yes, Sir. Thank you, Sir.
Or, would you like some cream with that coffee, Ma'am? Yes, Ma'am. Thank
you, Ma'am.
In the south, this is just common courtesy and its omission will
immediately put the relationship on a bad footing.
Also try to avoid serious political or social discussions. Also, if you
are a fast talking northerner, try to slow down your speech just a tad.
I-10 is just like any other freeway. Zoom-Zoom-Zoom.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
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Judi Buchanan on mon 14 feb 05
Dear Eleanora, I hate to think that we in the Deep South still have such =
a
frightening reputation. We have had 40 years of forgiveness and
reconciliation. I believe you will find people of all races in our area
friendly and welcoming. We don't have many more nuts per capita than any
other part of America. :>)
Don't stick to I10 coming through Mississippi. You will miss an area of =
the
county with a rich heritage of pottery and an active community of =
potters.
Don't miss the George Ohr, the mad potter of Biloxi, Museum or =
Shearwater
pottery, founded at the turn of the last century a few miles away in =
Ocean
Springs. It is still run by the family of Walter and Peter Anderson and
there is a museum downtown with a great deal of turn the century pottery =
and
Walter Anderson's amazing paintings. Ask in most of the small towns on
highway 90 along the coast and someone will direct you to a pottery =
studio.
I wish I were closer to your route so I could act as a guide to our =
area.
Judi Buchanan, Flutter-by Pottery, Heidelberg, Mississippi
Subject: Houston to Pensacola, FLA
I am frankly a bit
intimidated by the thought of travelling through the deep south. I
figure that Rt 10 will be a pretty safe bet.
Lori Leary on mon 14 feb 05
Hi Eleanora,
I was a bit surprised to read your post about being intimidated by
traveling in the deep south. What are your concerns?
Lori L.
Eleanora Eden wrote:
> I just figured out that Houston to Pensacola is Rt 10 and bluebonnets
> will have to be BEFORE the Houston fair. I am frankly a bit
> intimidated by the thought of travelling through the deep south. I
> figure that Rt 10 will be a pretty safe bet.
>
Eleanora Eden on mon 21 feb 05
Dear Judi and all,
I brought this up on clayart for this very reason: I know my
formative experiences were a very long time ago. But I still feel
them. SOOO, I thought I would give clayart, which NEVER lets me
down, help me get past this old anxiety.
I am saving all these posts to take with me. I deeply appreciate all
the responses. I will have my computer with me this trip and hope to
make a good diary of the trip. (I am very impressed with the diary
that Lisa sent from Belize) I really do want to replace that old
stuff with wonderful new stuff.
Eleanora
>Dear Eleanora, I hate to think that we in the Deep South still have such a
>frightening reputation. We have had 40 years of forgiveness and
>reconciliation. I believe you will find people of all races in our area
>friendly and welcoming. We don't have many more nuts per capita than any
>other part of America. :>)
> Don't stick to I10 coming through Mississippi. You will miss an area of the
>county with a rich heritage of pottery and an active community of potters.
>Don't miss the George Ohr, the mad potter of Biloxi, Museum or Shearwater
>pottery, founded at the turn of the last century a few miles away in Ocean
>Springs. It is still run by the family of Walter and Peter Anderson and
>there is a museum downtown with a great deal of turn the century pottery and
>Walter Anderson's amazing paintings. Ask in most of the small towns on
>highway 90 along the coast and someone will direct you to a pottery studio.
>I wish I were closer to your route so I could act as a guide to our area.
>
>Judi Buchanan, Flutter-by Pottery, Heidelberg, Mississippi
>
>
>Subject: Houston to Pensacola, FLA
>
>
>I am frankly a bit
>intimidated by the thought of travelling through the deep south. I
>figure that Rt 10 will be a pretty safe bet.
>
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Craig Clark on tue 22 feb 05
Eleanora, it is with hesitation that I respond to your query
considering traveling through the "deep south." As to the most
expeditious route Interstate 10 is the road to follow. As has been
stated you will miss some of the more interesting aspects of thraveling
through this part of the country. You have to get off of the beaten
track a bit to do that. Don't miss out on the George Ohr potters museum
in Biloxi. It is must see for potters. Ohr was an abstract expressionist
100 years ahead of his time.
As to your tredipdations about traveling across the South....what
specifically are they? Granted we have had an absolutely horrendous
history of race relations in the South. I like to tell folks that
whenever they think that there is violence in comtemporary society they
need to take a look at the 10,000 lynchings that occured in the South
between 1900 and 1970. These were carried out, especially up through the
civil rights era, with the implicit (and sometimes explicit) sanction of
the established communities. Thankfully we have come a long way from
those days of terror. The death sentence that was given to the men that
murdered James Byrd Jr. Those terrorists were members of a white
supremicist Aryan Brotherhood.
The struggle against these groups and their members continues, and
will unfortunatley most probably need to be fought for many years to
come. If you are interested in helping with these fights please go to
the Southern Poverty Law Centers site and either join or give what you
can. It is a wonderful organization composed of extraordinary
individuals. They are located in Alabama. Morris Dees has been under
death threat since forming the organization almost thiry years ago.
Here's the link http://www.splcenter.org/index.jsp
I have traveled a number of the highways and byways twixt here and
the East Coast. Let me know when ya'll are coming and I can give you
some points of interest along the way. Are you coming through Texas?
Lousianna, Missippi and Alabama? If you are driving through Lousianna
then the old highway 90 rather than I-10 will take you through old
towns, bayous, swamps, and even a nice drive along the beach for about
30 miles or so. If you get sick of the drive you can always head due
North and pick up 10 again. New Orleans is a place to see! The food is
great and the music is even better.
Write me off list or better yet give me a phone call if you have any
questions
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
Kathi LeSueur on tue 22 feb 05
Eleanora,
One thing no one from Texas has told you about are the rules of
etiquette on Texas roads. When you are on a two lane highway with
limited access you'll probably find a wide shoulder next to the drive
lane. When someone is coming up behind you at a faster rate, the
courteous thing to do is move over to the shoulder so that they can pass
you. Even if you are going the limit, move over. The "limit" is a
relative thing in Texas. There is nothing that drives Texans nuts more
than an out of state driver who doesn't know enough to move over.
Kathi
Eleanora Eden on wed 23 feb 05
Thankyou Kathi.
We will have the camper and a trailer so we will generally be being
real careful about stuff like that. Knowing what it is like being
behind something like us.
BTW, I was accepted into the Street Art fair where I applied when
State St didn't reinvite me. I applied on new basis to State St and
have received no word. So I will be doing Street Art, probably on N.
University.
Hope to see you there.
Eleanora
>Eleanora,
>One thing no one from Texas has told you about are the rules of
>etiquette on Texas roads. When you are on a two lane highway with
>limited access you'll probably find a wide shoulder next to the drive
>lane. When someone is coming up behind you at a faster rate, the
>courteous thing to do is move over to the shoulder so that they can pass
>you. Even if you are going the limit, move over. The "limit" is a
>relative thing in Texas. There is nothing that drives Texans nuts more
>than an out of state driver who doesn't know enough to move over.
>
>Kathi
>
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