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the end of tenmoku

updated fri 4 mar 05

 

Wes Rolley on wed 2 mar 05


I think that it is time to stop flagellating this diseased equine.

Based on this discussion, I am still not sure whether the term tenmoku
applies to a style (not defined by anyone), a shape (not described here)
or a glaze (variously defined including the use of additional
descriptive terms: yohen, yuteki (oil spont), red, white, hare's fur,
partridge feather, etc.)

So, I conclude that all three are appropriate uses depending on context
and that as a glaze, it can look like just about anything as long as it
contains the right amount of iron. See the sake cups of Kamda Koji for
sale here: http://www.2000cranes.com/Online_Shop/sake_sets.htm#KKamada
or the various bowls shown here:
http://www.manises.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3D763



Wes
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Lee Love on thu 3 mar 05


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Wes, If you use the kanji for tenmoku chawan, you come up with a
gazillion examples 天目茶碗 :


http://tinyurl.com/6a3gg


Lee In Mashiko, Japan



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Lee Love on thu 3 mar 05


Wes Rolley wrote:

>
> contains the right amount of iron. See the sake cups of Kamda Koji for
> sale here: http://www.2000cranes.com/Online_Shop/sake_sets.htm#KKamada
> or the various bowls shown here:
> http://www.manises.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=763

Wes, You know, I don't think these look like the traditional oilspot
glazes. The old ones were smooth. Here is one I think looks more
like the original:

http://www.stoneware.net/stoneware/glasyrer/recept/brown/k315.htm

Look at this matt yellow:

http://www.stoneware.net/stoneware/glasyrer/recept/otherox/s422.htm

All found here: http://www.stoneware.net/

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John Britt on thu 3 mar 05


Lee,

What I love about this post is seeing the amazing things that people
across the world are doing. We get a bit myopic and mesmerized by
ourselves here in America, thinking that what we are doing is the be all
and end all of everything, without realizing that there are over 4 billion
people in the world and of the potters, we only know about a small few.
Imagine what is happening in China!

Lasse Ostman has an amazing website and is very generous. He is also
firing many glazes to cone 8 or 9 in electric, so this makes it possible
for the mid-range folks to experiment with a bit higher temperatures.

Anyway, the world is an amazing place,

John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com

Edwards on thu 3 mar 05


Hello John: My thoughts exactly. I think that this can apply to
woodfiring also. A good woodfired pot in Yi-xing China means is ^3
oxidation, in Korea ^10 reduction, in Turkey only Rick would know.
When someone wants a woodfired look, the images that it conjures up
overwhelm me. So many pots so little time.
~Craig
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John Britt wrote:

>Lee,
>
>What I love about this post is seeing the amazing things that people
>across the world are doing. We get a bit myopic and mesmerized by
>ourselves here in America, thinking that what we are doing is the be all
>and end all of everything, without realizing that there are over 4 billion
>people in the world and of the potters, we only know about a small few.
>Imagine what is happening in China!
>
>Lasse Ostman has an amazing website and is very generous. He is also
>firing many glazes to cone 8 or 9 in electric, so this makes it possible
>for the mid-range folks to experiment with a bit higher temperatures.
>
>Anyway, the world is an amazing place,
>
>John Britt
>
>
>

Lee Love on fri 4 mar 05


John Britt wrote:

>What I love about this post is seeing the amazing things that people
>across the world are doing. We get a bit myopic and mesmerized by
>ourselves here in America, thinking that what we are doing is the be all
>and end all of everything, without realizing that there are over 4 billion
>people in the world and of the potters, we only know about a small few.
>Imagine what is happening in China!
>
>
Yes. We seem to be re-inventing the wheel all the time,
because of a lack of communication. What is so interesting about
reading Hamada's and Leach's biographys, is the synergy of many
different cultures coming together to create something new. That,
along with their not keeping secrets are their most important gifts to
the craft community, I believe.

I just returned a bunch of French pottery magazines to Genevive when
she came to pick up her test tiles. I had no idea they were doing
such interesting work over there, a combination of traditional work and
avant-garde. It would seem in this day and age, we could transcend
the language barrier just a little bit. I suppose someone just has
to do it.

>Lasse Ostman has an amazing website and is very generous. He is also
>firing many glazes to cone 8 or 9 in electric, so this makes it possible
>for the mid-range folks to experiment with a bit higher temperatures.
>
>
Yes. His attitude about sharing knowledge is a good
example. I am going to try his yellow glaze in Japanese materials.
Did you notice the rutile in it?

>Anyway, the world is an amazing place,
>

I woke up to about a half a foot of snow (maybe
more!) Looks like Minnesota out there. Will probably hear cracking
bamboo in the woods behind our house/studio. My Akita Taiko is going
to love it.



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