Lori on tue 15 mar 05
I recently came across an image of a beautiful pitcher. It looked as though
the pot had originally been thrown as a vase, with a rather round belly,
which narrowed slightly in at the neck, and then flared out and upwards with
a 3" tall rim.
If one were to look at the pitcher in profile, the spout appeared to have
been made by cutting a line down from the rim at a diagonal, then carrying
that line into sort of a stirrup or "u" shape, and finally bringing that
line to the back of the pot where the handle was eventually attached.
I tried to make a few pitchers myself, but had trouble making the spouts
symmetrical. I even cut the shape away from half the pot and then used the
cut out clay as a template (by bending it gently so that I could lay it
against the other side of the pot, before tracing the line of the cut-out
and cutting away the second side).
Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
Thanks!
Lori
Froggy Bottoms Pottery
Port Townsend, WA
steve baker on wed 16 mar 05
Dear June -
I keep trying to respond to your email address that
you used to send me a note, but it keeps coming back
as a failure. Can you verify to me that the email is
correct or possibly send me a second.
Thanks,
Steve Blankenbeker
--- June Perry wrote:
> I just eyeball it; but you could cut one side
> starting at the center of what
> will be the pour spout, making sure you mark what
> will be the center of the
> front of the spout; and then use the cut out portion
> on the other side to
> trace the outline. Just lay the cut out piece
> against the uncut side and proceed
> to trace or just cut along the edge to match the
> first cut.
>
> Regards,
> June Perry
> _http://www.angelfire.com/art2/shambhalapottery/_
> (http://www.angelfire.com/art2/shambhalapottery/)
>
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Kathy McDonald on wed 16 mar 05
I have also made this type of spout by throwing a bowl shape then cutting it
in half
prior to attaching. It solves the rim problem and you also get two spouts
made pretty quickly.
Kathy
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> Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
>
I've done a few and went to a workshop a while back where the demonstrator
cut out paper templates- you can damp paper and it will stick to the clay so
you can back off and take a look at the profile before making the final cut
and then very carefully cut and finish the rim- main point I've found is not
to throw too thin or the spout can be too "weedy" looking ;-) (can't think
of a more apt term sorry!)
Good luck
Steph
from hot, sticky and drought affected North-West Western Australia
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Jeff Brown on wed 16 mar 05
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:17:51 -0500, Lori wrote:
>I recently came across an image of a beautiful pitcher. It looked as
though
>the pot had originally been thrown as a vase, with a rather round belly,
>which narrowed slightly in at the neck, and then flared out and upwards
with
>a 3" tall rim.
>
>If one were to look at the pitcher in profile, the spout appeared to have
>been made by cutting a line down from the rim at a diagonal, then carrying
>that line into sort of a stirrup or "u" shape, and finally bringing that
>line to the back of the pot where the handle was eventually attached.
>
>I tried to make a few pitchers myself, but had trouble making the spouts
>symmetrical. I even cut the shape away from half the pot and then used
the
>cut out clay as a template (by bending it gently so that I could lay it
>against the other side of the pot, before tracing the line of the cut-out
>and cutting away the second side).
>
>Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Lori
>Froggy Bottoms Pottery
>Port Townsend, WA
>
That one you have to eyeball...after you cut it the best you can then take
a long dowel and roll it across both sides of the cut rim to kinda push
the two sides into submission.
Jeff Brown
Northwood, NH
http://jeffbrownpottery.com
Culling on wed 16 mar 05
> Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
>
I've done a few and went to a workshop a while back where the demonstrator
cut out paper templates- you can damp paper and it will stick to the clay so
you can back off and take a look at the profile before making the final cut
and then very carefully cut and finish the rim- main point I've found is not
to throw too thin or the spout can be too "weedy" looking ;-) (can't think
of a more apt term sorry!)
Good luck
Steph
from hot, sticky and drought affected North-West Western Australia
Elizabeth Priddy on wed 16 mar 05
sounds like a pulled lip.
Try making the shape with a slightly thick collar.
pull the lip of the pitcher when it is just set up but not stiff.
Make a receiving cup out of your left hand's thumb and forefinger and
then with the first and second finger of your right hand, pull the lip into the left.
You will hold your left hand vertical with the edges of your fingers spread to the width
you are wanting from the lip and the joint of your thumb and finger slightly above the lip and not touching (so as not to mar the rim).
push the area you are working on into the pot slightly before you begin to pull
as counter pressure to what you are doing.
when you are done, go in with a rib or wooden shaper or clay shaper(best) and make the
flowing indentions ou see that made you think it might be attached somehow.
hope this helps.
E
Lori wrote:
I recently came across an image of a beautiful pitcher. It looked as though
the pot had originally been thrown as a vase, with a rather round belly,
which narrowed slightly in at the neck, and then flared out and upwards with
a 3" tall rim.
If one were to look at the pitcher in profile, the spout appeared to have
been made by cutting a line down from the rim at a diagonal, then carrying
that line into sort of a stirrup or "u" shape, and finally bringing that
line to the back of the pot where the handle was eventually attached.
I tried to make a few pitchers myself, but had trouble making the spouts
symmetrical. I even cut the shape away from half the pot and then used the
cut out clay as a template (by bending it gently so that I could lay it
against the other side of the pot, before tracing the line of the cut-out
and cutting away the second side).
Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
Thanks!
Lori
Froggy Bottoms Pottery
Port Townsend, WA
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Bob Santerre on wed 16 mar 05
You've got the right idea Lori. I make pitchers with cut-out spouts
(http://www.arrowsicisalndpottery.com). To do the spout cutting I've
made a light cardboard template (from a file folder, starting with about
a 3"x5" rectangle) for the cut-out shape. At the start and end of the
cut line on the template I've placed upright pen marks that I use to
line up the template consistently on the rim to be cut. I make 2 marks
on the rim of the pitcher (before the spout is cut) that divide the rim
exactly in half. Then I wrap the template around the outside of the rim
(leather hard) and line up the upright pen marks on the template with
the marks I've made on the rim and use a sharp tool to draw/scribe the
shape of the cut out onto the rim of the pitcher. Just turn the
template over, line up the marks and scribe the other side of the rim.
Then I use a sharp, very pointed fettling knife to carve the rim along
the scribe marks. This gets things pretty symmetrical, but sometimes
not exactly, so I may have to eyeball the cutouts and do a little bit
more carving to get things looking just right.
Then to flare out the lip of the pitcher rim a bit, I first re-wet the
area generously and pull it up with my wet fingers, thinning and
extending the rim upwards. I then place my index finger and thumb
(left hand, because I'm right-handed) on either side of the rim
(outside) leaving enough space between them so I can drag my right index
finger between them (and the clay of the rim) and thus pull the
rim/spout outward and down and away from the left thumb and index
finger to make the final shape of the pouring lip. It takes a bit of
practice, but stick with it and eventually you'll be shaping beautiful
pitcher spouts with elegant pouring lips.
Hope all this verbage makes sense. If not give me a call and maybe we
can make more sense of it over the phone (207) 443-5858.
Good luck (and send me a picture when you get a spout you like), Bob
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Lori wrote:
>I recently came across an image of a beautiful pitcher. It looked as though
>the pot had originally been thrown as a vase, with a rather round belly,
>which narrowed slightly in at the neck, and then flared out and upwards with
>a 3" tall rim.
>
>If one were to look at the pitcher in profile, the spout appeared to have
>been made by cutting a line down from the rim at a diagonal, then carrying
>that line into sort of a stirrup or "u" shape, and finally bringing that
>line to the back of the pot where the handle was eventually attached.
>
>I tried to make a few pitchers myself, but had trouble making the spouts
>symmetrical. I even cut the shape away from half the pot and then used the
>cut out clay as a template (by bending it gently so that I could lay it
>against the other side of the pot, before tracing the line of the cut-out
>and cutting away the second side).
>
>Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Lori
>Froggy Bottoms Pottery
>Port Townsend, WA
>
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June Perry on wed 16 mar 05
I just eyeball it; but you could cut one side starting at the center of what
will be the pour spout, making sure you mark what will be the center of the
front of the spout; and then use the cut out portion on the other side to
trace the outline. Just lay the cut out piece against the uncut side and proceed
to trace or just cut along the edge to match the first cut.
Regards,
June Perry
_http://www.angelfire.com/art2/shambhalapottery/_
(http://www.angelfire.com/art2/shambhalapottery/)
Carl Finch on sat 19 mar 05
At 10:37 AM 3/19/2005, Victoria wrote:
>Greetings Bob,
>
>While I didn't post the original message, I would like to learn your
>technique for making cut-out spouts for pitchers. I can't quite envision the
>process as you describe it and was hoping to gain some insight on your
>website. I've tried unsuccessfully to access the web address. Is it
>correct?
No, it's not! (I tried a couple times, myself--same result as you)
His web site really is:
http://www.arrowsicislandpottery.com
As in Arrowsic Island Pottery!
>On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:46:02 -0500, Bob Santerre wrote:
>
> >You've got the right idea Lori. I make pitchers with cut-out spouts
> >(http://www.arrowsicisalndpottery.com).
Tsk!
--Carl
in Medofrod, Oregano
Victoria on sat 19 mar 05
Greetings Bob,
While I didn't post the original message, I would like to learn your
technique for making cut-out spouts for pitchers. I can't quite envision the
process as you describe it and was hoping to gain some insight on your
website. I've tried unsuccessfully to access the web address. Is it
correct? I would like to see what you've done. Thanks for the directions,
I'll be studying them in hopes of making a pitcher of this lovely design.
Victoria Cherney
zuzoopetal(at)yahoo.com
P.S. Might I call you if I become desperate?
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:46:02 -0500, Bob Santerre wrote:
>You've got the right idea Lori. I make pitchers with cut-out spouts
>(http://www.arrowsicisalndpottery.com). To do the spout cutting I've
>made a light cardboard template (from a file folder, starting with about
>a 3"x5" rectangle) for the cut-out shape. At the start and end of the
>cut line on the template I've placed upright pen marks that I use to
>line up the template consistently on the rim to be cut. I make 2 marks
>on the rim of the pitcher (before the spout is cut) that divide the rim
>exactly in half. Then I wrap the template around the outside of the rim
>(leather hard) and line up the upright pen marks on the template with
>the marks I've made on the rim and use a sharp tool to draw/scribe the
>shape of the cut out onto the rim of the pitcher. Just turn the
>template over, line up the marks and scribe the other side of the rim.
>Then I use a sharp, very pointed fettling knife to carve the rim along
>the scribe marks. This gets things pretty symmetrical, but sometimes
>not exactly, so I may have to eyeball the cutouts and do a little bit
>more carving to get things looking just right.
>
> Then to flare out the lip of the pitcher rim a bit, I first re-wet the
>area generously and pull it up with my wet fingers, thinning and
>extending the rim upwards. I then place my index finger and thumb
>(left hand, because I'm right-handed) on either side of the rim
>(outside) leaving enough space between them so I can drag my right index
>finger between them (and the clay of the rim) and thus pull the
>rim/spout outward and down and away from the left thumb and index
>finger to make the final shape of the pouring lip. It takes a bit of
>practice, but stick with it and eventually you'll be shaping beautiful
>pitcher spouts with elegant pouring lips.
>
>Hope all this verbage makes sense. If not give me a call and maybe we
>can make more sense of it over the phone (207) 443-5858.
>
>Good luck (and send me a picture when you get a spout you like), Bob
>
>/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
>Lori wrote:
>
>>I recently came across an image of a beautiful pitcher. It looked as though
>>the pot had originally been thrown as a vase, with a rather round belly,
>>which narrowed slightly in at the neck, and then flared out and upwards with
>>a 3" tall rim.
>>
>>If one were to look at the pitcher in profile, the spout appeared to have
>>been made by cutting a line down from the rim at a diagonal, then carrying
>>that line into sort of a stirrup or "u" shape, and finally bringing that
>>line to the back of the pot where the handle was eventually attached.
>>
>>I tried to make a few pitchers myself, but had trouble making the spouts
>>symmetrical. I even cut the shape away from half the pot and then used the
>>cut out clay as a template (by bending it gently so that I could lay it
>>against the other side of the pot, before tracing the line of the cut-out
>>and cutting away the second side).
>>
>>Does anyone have any tips for making a spout like this?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Lori
>>Froggy Bottoms Pottery
>>Port Townsend, WA
>>
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
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>>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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