URL Krueger on tue 22 mar 05
What is the purpose of Potters Council Regional ????,
( where ???? can be "Workshop", "Conference", "Meeting" or
"Get Together" ) and who should be paid how much.
For your consideration my thinking on this is that if you
use the word:
1. Workshop, then it is intended to be primarily an
educational experience for the attendees and they should
expect to pay for this experience. The presenters should
expect to receive adequate compensation for their time and
expenses.
2. Conference, then it is a coming together to share
information and attendees should expect to pay to cover
costs and presenters could expect to receive some
compensation but not necessarily full reimbursement for
their time and expenses. Presenting is considered somewhat
an honor and an opportunity for exposure/self promotion.
3. Meeting, then it is a coming together to discuss
business of the organization and costs should be paid from
dues. Atttendees should expect to pay an amount that would
cover the benefits they receive over and above what a
non-attending member would receive. Officers, if available
monies allow, could expect their expenses to be paid but
not necessarily their time.
4. Get Together, then it is an informal gathering of
members in order to socialize, discuss the art and
generally have a positive experience with like minded
people. Attendees should expect to pay to cover costs. No
one should expect to be paid for their time.
Potters Council is kind of a funny organization. I think
those members who make their living from pottery may view
it as a professional organization and have expectations of
it the same as other professional organizations. Those of
us who make our living at other work but are committed to
pottery may view it more along the lines of a society for
amateurs and therefore have different expectations.
One more comment. I think that Potters Council should be
careful in their planning not to exclude those who would
find extensive travel, lodging and fees beyond their
budget. Ignoring this would make Potters Council an
organization of the elite.
Pick these thoughts apart, or ignore them, as you wish.
--
Earl K...
Bothell WA, USA
L. P. Skeen on wed 23 mar 05
Earl, what you seem to have missed in the discussions is that the Potter's
Council Regional whatever you call 'ems are organized not by the PC but by
folks like you and me. This means that they can be held just about anywhere
there's a proper facility and someone willing to do the legwork. The PC
handles registration and fee collection and that sort of thing, but they're
not deciding, "OK, we're going to have one workshop here, and another one
here." Thus, travel, lodging, etc. are not in the purview PC.
If you feel it is "elite" to have a conference out here in NC for example,
when you are on the other side of the country, then it's on YOU to host a
workshop in a place where you feel it is economically feasible for you to
attend.
There is at least one future conference/workshop being planned for the East
coast, and I believe I heard David talking about one in TX. Stephanie has
one upcoming in CA in October. The reason these things are happening is
that PC members were willing to do the planning and legwork to "git 'er
done".
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "URL Krueger"
> One more comment. I think that Potters Council should be
> careful in their planning not to exclude those who would
> find extensive travel, lodging and fees beyond their
> budget. Ignoring this would make Potters Council an
> organization of the elite.
David Hendley on thu 24 mar 05
I think Earl's definitions of "Workshop", "Conference", "Meeting",
and "Get together", and the corresponding pay expectations, are right on.
The title "Regional Conference" was carefully chosen, and it fits his
criteria exactly. "Regional" means that the expenses of extensive travel
are addressed, and "Conference" means that presenters will receive
compensation, but not necessarily full pay for their time. The opportunity
for exposure and the honor of being asked to present are also included
in the compensation. Plus, the conferences are fun.
The honorarium for being a presenter at the NCECA Conference certainly
comes nowhere near covering the expenses involved with attending.
David Hendley
I don't know nothin' but the blues, cobalt that is.
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
> What is the purpose of Potters Council Regional ????,
> ( where ???? can be "Workshop", "Conference", "Meeting" or
> "Get Together" ) and who should be paid how much.
>
> For your consideration my thinking on this is that if you
> use the word:
>
> 1. Workshop, then it is intended to be primarily an
> educational experience for the attendees and they should
> expect to pay for this experience. The presenters should
> expect to receive adequate compensation for their time and
> expenses.
>
> 2. Conference, then it is a coming together to share
> information and attendees should expect to pay to cover
> costs and presenters could expect to receive some
> compensation but not necessarily full reimbursement for
> their time and expenses. Presenting is considered somewhat
> an honor and an opportunity for exposure/self promotion.
>
> 3. Meeting, then it is a coming together to discuss
> business of the organization and costs should be paid from
> dues. Atttendees should expect to pay an amount that would
> cover the benefits they receive over and above what a
> non-attending member would receive. Officers, if available
> monies allow, could expect their expenses to be paid but
> not necessarily their time.
>
> 4. Get Together, then it is an informal gathering of
> members in order to socialize, discuss the art and
> generally have a positive experience with like minded
> people. Attendees should expect to pay to cover costs. No
> one should expect to be paid for their time.
>
> One more comment. I think that Potters Council should be
> careful in their planning not to exclude those who would
> find extensive travel, lodging and fees beyond their
> budget. Ignoring this would make Potters Council an
> organization of the elite.
>> --
> Earl K...
> Bothell WA, USA
Linda Ferzoco on sat 26 mar 05
As a consumer of workshops, conferences, etc., I expect a workshop to offer
me hands-on experience under the tutelage of the educating potter and am
willing to pay commensurately. I expect individual attention from the teacher.
Events such as Mendocino offer wonderful education and insight from the
teacher, but not the opportunity to try the techniques under the teacher's
watchful eye. We certainly were able to practice in the studios and some
availaed themselves of that, but it's not quite the same intensity as a
workshop conducted in a studio setting. It's the next-best thing however
and as I learned, can be immense fun, mostly because of this incredible
community of potters.
Looking forward to more Mendocino-like conferences as well as workshops,
Linda
Pacifica, California
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