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questions for the glaze gurus:crazing:refires :copper reds

updated sun 24 apr 05

 

Daniel Semler on wed 20 apr 05

that got redder in oxidation refire.

Hi Craig,

Good point, oops. I should have thought more about what Tichane talks about in
respect of oxidation at the end of copper red firings.

Thanx
D

> Daniel was saying:
> >This sounds like striking-in. Striking-in is used in glass where the
> >colour of the glass after the initial heating and cooling is not red. It is
> >then heated to a lower temperature and held for a while. As a result the
> >copper
> >red colour appears. I've heard that this can be done with copper red glazes.
>
> Hi:
>
> As I recall, Kathy was talking about the glaze becoming redder after a
> refire in the electric. What made the piece redder and brighter was some
> extra oxidation, not achieved in the initial firing.
>
> With respect to strike firing to produce a red, it is necessary to do this
> in reduction so stiking wouldn't apply in this case.
>
> regards, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon
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Kathy McDonald on wed 20 apr 05

that got redder in oxidation refire.

Yes, the glaze became almost a red/maroon color after the
oxidation refire to c 02.

This is a new to me. I expected in to refire to a copper green color
which has happened in the past when I put c 10R copper glazes in an
oxidation refire
to c 6 or 9.

Kathy
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got redder in oxidation refire.


Daniel was saying:
>This sounds like striking-in. Striking-in is used in glass where the
>colour of the glass after the initial heating and cooling is not red. It is
>then heated to a lower temperature and held for a while. As a result the
>copper
>red colour appears. I've heard that this can be done with copper red
glazes.

Hi:

As I recall, Kathy was talking about the glaze becoming redder after a
refire in the electric. What made the piece redder and brighter was some
extra oxidation, not achieved in the initial firing.

With respect to strike firing to produce a red, it is necessary to do this
in reduction so stiking wouldn't apply in this case.

regards, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon

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Ron Roy on sat 23 apr 05

that got redder in oxidation refire.

I agree with Daniel in this - refiring allows the crystals that are
necessary for the coluor to develope.

I don't know what would happen if the striking was done in reduction - but
I do know it works in oxidation for both copper reds and chrome tin reds -
because they both depend on crystal developement.

Changes also happens in Shino glazes - more red after a bisue firing -
again because there is more crystalization.

When refired to promote changes the crystals get a chance to grow on the
way up and on the way down - as opposed to slowing down the cooling in the
original firing where the crystals only get a chance to grow on the way
down - in that situation you would need to slow down a lot longer to get
the same results.

RR



>Daniel was saying:
>>This sounds like striking-in. Striking-in is used in glass where the
>>colour of the glass after the initial heating and cooling is not red. It is
>>then heated to a lower temperature and held for a while. As a result the
>>copper
>>red colour appears. I've heard that this can be done with copper red glazes.
>
>Hi:
>
>As I recall, Kathy was talking about the glaze becoming redder after a
>refire in the electric. What made the piece redder and brighter was some
>extra oxidation, not achieved in the initial firing.
>
>With respect to strike firing to produce a red, it is necessary to do this
>in reduction so stiking wouldn't apply in this case.

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