Scott Harrison on sun 1 may 05
bottles and replacement parts
I bought one for my high school ceramics class several years ago and
it works great. If it survives a year in this environment it
qualifies as a keeper.
Scott Harrison
South Fork High School
Humboldt Redwoods CA
> On May 1, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Cindy in SD wrote:
> Ditto to Jonathan
>
> I, too, bought something from Harbor Freight. Once. I am a fast
> learner,
> but not, apparently, fast enough. ;)
>
> Cindy in SD
>
> Ceramic Design Group wrote:
>
>
>> Cheap is cheap and Harbor Freight is junk to the hundredth power. I
>> tried Harbor Freight once, and once is enough. Their tools may be
>> cheap, but buying cheap tools is like cheap paint. You do it
>> again. It
>> doesn't last. i tried their 100 pc set of titanium coated drill
>> bits....$21 bucks or so. They are all broken and in the trash heap.
>> Garbage in garbage out.
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>
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Ceramic Design Group on sun 1 may 05
bottles and replacement parts
Cheap is cheap and Harbor Freight is junk to the hundredth power. I
tried Harbor Freight once, and once is enough. Their tools may be
cheap, but buying cheap tools is like cheap paint. You do it again. It
doesn't last. i tried their 100 pc set of titanium coated drill
bits....$21 bucks or so. They are all broken and in the trash heap.
Garbage in garbage out.
I would not buy anything ever again from them. And it sounds like this
spray gun is a case in point. Buy a good one the first time. i don't
quite understand the conundrum of valuing your work and putting time
and effort into it and then buying el cheapo tools that in this case,
mars the glaze finish.
I use a Deviliblis Automotive HVLP spray gun.About $200 at Graingers.
Balistic and unless you beat on it it will last a lifetime. No runs, no
drips, a perfect smooth coat.
Respectfully,
Jonathan
Jonathan Kaplan
Ceramic Design Group
PO Box 775112
Steamboat Springs CO 80477
(970) 879-9139
Plant location for commercial deliveries excluding USPS
1280 13th Street Suite K
Steamboat Springs CO 80487
info@ceramicdesigngroup.net
www.ceramicdesigngroup.net
PurpleLama@AOL.COM on sun 1 may 05
bottles and replacement parts
No runs, no drips, no errors?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Nice having you back, Jonathan
Shula
soon to return to sunny Redondo Beach, CA (providing I can find an affordable
apartment to rent there)
Jonathan Kaplan
Ceramic Design Group wrote:
<< I use a Deviliblis Automotive HVLP spray gun.About $200 at Graingers.
Balistic and unless you beat on it it will last a lifetime. No runs, no
drips, a perfect smooth coat. >>
Cindy in SD on sun 1 may 05
bottles and replacement parts
Ditto to Jonathan
I, too, bought something from Harbor Freight. Once. I am a fast learner,
but not, apparently, fast enough. ;)
Cindy in SD
Ceramic Design Group wrote:
> Cheap is cheap and Harbor Freight is junk to the hundredth power. I
> tried Harbor Freight once, and once is enough. Their tools may be
> cheap, but buying cheap tools is like cheap paint. You do it again. It
> doesn't last. i tried their 100 pc set of titanium coated drill
> bits....$21 bucks or so. They are all broken and in the trash heap.
> Garbage in garbage out.
>
> I would not buy anything ever again from them. And it sounds like this
> spray gun is a case in point. Buy a good one the first time. i don't
> quite understand the conundrum of valuing your work and putting time
> and effort into it and then buying el cheapo tools that in this case,
> mars the glaze finish.
>
> I use a Deviliblis Automotive HVLP spray gun.About $200 at Graingers.
> Balistic and unless you beat on it it will last a lifetime. No runs, no
> drips, a perfect smooth coat.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jonathan
>
Louis Katz on mon 2 may 05
bottles and replacement parts
Hi Jonathan,
I worked in a whole shop of Harbor Freight tools. Lots of stuff,
sockets, box end wrenches, little ones up to the 1 1/4 inch stuff.
Bigger sockets, a bunch of pliers, cutters, some screw drivers, that
kind of thing. Power tools were all purchased elsewhere, Makita,
Milwaukee, etc. high quality. Mostly these tools had no moivng parts
other than a fulcrum.
We used these tools and had few problems. When we lost a tool, broken
or whatever we replaced it with quality. Ended up with a few broken
sockets and a new socket wrenches. We never could have purchased all
the tools we bought for this shop. Mostly they worked. When one of the
socket handles broke we replaced them all. Not worth the hassle.
Anyhow we bought some snap ring pliers so that we would have them if we
needed them. Lost a ring on the forklift front end with a hopper full
of cement. It was getting kind of stiff so I went and got the snap ring
pliers and some bailing wire. I ended up needing both although the
bailing wire might have done it on its own.
I favor other sources for cheap drill bits ( ENCO), but i don't ever
try to buy quality from a cheap outlet like Harbor freight.
My students when the are taking Sculpture (not from me) frequently go
and buy there own chisels from HF and a few other tools. You do have to
shop there with the idea that you are not buying quality. They use the
chisels in the course in a low stress application. For what they use
them for they have never had a broken chisel ( I suspect).
I also buy tools at HF that have a habit of walking at school. Usually
these are tools that we have in some quantity like hammers. We always
have a couple of good hammers as well.
My suggestions about the sprayers is similar to yours . If the 20
dollar sprayer does not cut it just buy quality.
Louis
On May 1, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Ceramic Design Group wrote:
> Cheap is cheap and Harbor Freight is junk to the hundredth power. I
> tried Harbor Freight once, and once is enough. Their tools may be
> cheap, but buying cheap tools is like cheap paint. You do it again. It
> doesn't last. i tried their 100 pc set of titanium coated drill
> bits....$21 bucks or so. They are all broken and in the trash heap.
> Garbage in garbage out.
>
> I would not buy anything ever again from them. And it sounds like this
> spray gun is a case in point. Buy a good one the first time. i don't
> quite understand the conundrum of valuing your work and putting time
> and effort into it and then buying el cheapo tools that in this case,
> mars the glaze finish.
>
> I use a Deviliblis Automotive HVLP spray gun.About $200 at Graingers.
> Balistic and unless you beat on it it will last a lifetime. No runs, no
> drips, a perfect smooth coat.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan Kaplan
> Ceramic Design Group
> PO Box 775112
> Steamboat Springs CO 80477
> (970) 879-9139
>
> Plant location for commercial deliveries excluding USPS
> 1280 13th Street Suite K
> Steamboat Springs CO 80487
>
> info@ceramicdesigngroup.net
> www.ceramicdesigngroup.net
>
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Louis Katz
http://www.tamucc.edu/~lkatz
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