Mike Gordon on mon 2 may 05
Susan,
As I remember, the frame part that needed repair, had an identical part
somewhere on the frame that was still in good condition. So I used some
alginate, took a mold of the good part and cast some no. 1 plaster into
the mold and then fit it into the area that was damaged. I need to do a
little free hand work but it turned out really nice. The plaster works
good because it is so easy to work with even though it is rather soft,
but with an acrylic coat it can be made hard enough to satisfy the
needs of the job. I used a plastic drinking cup to mix up small amounts
of plaster, not much waste. Mike Gordon
On May 2, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Susan Fox-Hirschmann wrote:
> In a message dated 5/2/2005 7:29:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> clayart@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
> I have used plaster on wood to repair an art nouveau picture frame,
> with antique gold paint over it.
>
> Are you mixing your own No.1 pottery plaster or some other kind?
> Thanks for the advise!
> Susan
> Annandale, VA
>
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Susan Fox-Hirschmann on mon 2 may 05
A gentleman has employed me to fix a broken antique porcelain mirror frame,
in a roccoco style, and I already know the best adhesive to use, but am
wondering if anyone out there has an idea for a "filler" between the cracks on the
frame. I have tons of acrylics and will mix the matching color to paint over
that and give it the same look and also have gold leafing to recreate that look
as well. It is the filler that has my stumped right now.
I know wall spackle can be sanded to remove lines but has anyone ever done
this on porcelain in a restorative manner?
Thanks!
Susan
Annandale, VA
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 2 may 05
Hi Susan,
'Spackle' would not be considered a decent filler for Porcelain or Ceramic.
Some forms of it may be acceptable for filling in or for building up and
re-scuptureing what would be subsequently the Gold Leaf details or
vignette's elements of Plaster-on-Wood Frames or other items which used
heavy white Lead primers and Gesso and molded Plaster on Wood.
Clear epoxy with any of various (non UV reactive ) pigmented powders,
blended by experiment to match the color desired, and or to approximate the
refractive index of them...would 'do'...
Light Air Brushing with appropriate Acrylics or better yet, Lacquers, is
also (or was, anyway, and likely still is) considered reasonable for
feathering in repairs on Ceramic Art objects or Antique Ceramic items.
'Eastman 9-10' or various of the Cyanoacrylate adhesives were, and likely
still are, the standard method for addressing repairs in Antique or Art
Ceramics which do not require gap-filling properties in their adhesive. When
they do require them, a good grade of 'Commercial' or Industrial epoxy, I
believe, is still the so-to-speak de-rigueur...
Marble dust or other inert coloring pigments or powders may be used to
approximate the color needed.
These dusts may be made useing a portable hand-held electric Belt Sander
clamped into a Bench Vise if need be...and gathered for experiment to arrive
as one may, to the color one needs when mixed with the epoxy.
Yours,
Phil
el ve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Fox-Hirschmann"
> A gentleman has employed me to fix a broken antique porcelain mirror
frame,
> in a roccoco style, and I already know the best adhesive to use, but am
> wondering if anyone out there has an idea for a "filler" between the
cracks on the
> frame. I have tons of acrylics and will mix the matching color to paint
over
> that and give it the same look and also have gold leafing to recreate that
look
> as well. It is the filler that has my stumped right now.
> I know wall spackle can be sanded to remove lines but has anyone ever done
> this on porcelain in a restorative manner?
> Thanks!
> Susan
> Annandale, VA
>
>
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Mike Gordon on mon 2 may 05
Susan,
I have used plaster on wood to repair an art nouveau picture frame,
with antique gold paint over it. If you are worried about the softness
of spackle you can use auto bondo which dries very hard and can be
sanded. If you can match the color of the porcelain with acrylics I
think it would work just fine. A clear coat of clear finger nail polish
which can be brushed on a small area should give a nice gloss to the
area. Mike Gordon
On May 2, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Susan Fox-Hirschmann wrote:
> I know wall spackle can be sanded to remove lines but has anyone ever
> done
> this on porcelain in a restorative manner?
> Thanks!
> Susan
> Annandale, VA
>
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Susan Fox-Hirschmann on mon 2 may 05
In a message dated 5/2/2005 7:29:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
clayart@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
I have used plaster on wood to repair an art nouveau picture frame,
with antique gold paint over it.
Are you mixing your own No.1 pottery plaster or some other kind?
Thanks for the advise!
Susan
Annandale, VA
Gayle Bair on tue 3 may 05
Susan,
I've used epoxy putty with great success.
It comes in a 2 part stick. You knead then apply.
I have mixed mason stains into it which eliminated the need to "paint" it.
There are numerous sites online. I bought mine at Ace Hardware.
Gayle Bair
-----Original Message-----
From: = Susan Fox-Hirschmann
A gentleman has employed me to fix a broken antique porcelain mirror frame,
in a roccoco style, and I already know the best adhesive to use, but am
wondering if anyone out there has an idea for a "filler" between the cracks
on the
frame. I have tons of acrylics and will mix the matching color to paint
over
that and give it the same look and also have gold leafing to recreate that
look
as well. It is the filler that has my stumped right now.
I know wall spackle can be sanded to remove lines but has anyone ever done
this on porcelain in a restorative manner?
Thanks!
Susan
Annandale, VA
Russel Fouts on wed 4 may 05
Susan,
A friend of mine, former potter now ceramic restorer, repairs everything
from the antique sink that the plumber accidentally broke and needs fixed
before the client comes back from holiday to broken plates from the royal
table setting at the palace here in Brussels. Does great work, has a
thriving business.
Repairs cracks and even builds up/models missing parts using Araldite
(sp?), two part, slow setting epoxy mixed with talc (baby powder) as the
filler.
Russel
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