primalmommy on tue 10 may 05
Just of the summer, I am making some of my studio space/wheels available
for a small fee to some of my students fromthe guild and others who just
want to throw and don't have facilities.
it seemed like a simple enough idea, and then began to cascade: Shelf
space, OK. Then.. firing fees. How to figure that? Like mileage,
electric bill + kiln wash + wear and tear onthe elements, etc.? Should I
just go be kiln shelf, or is there a formula for how much per inch to
charge for pots, to differentiate between candle holders and birdbaths?
Then, of course -- glazes. I could have everybody buy or mix their own,
but i hate scraping shelves and some of these folks are beginners and
not there yet. I will insist that all clay is bought from me or from our
local and wonderful laguna dealer, so I know it's the right cone, but
the only way I can see having any control over the glazes is to mix a
few big buckets myself for "community use" -- licorice, clear, oatmeal
and maybe a blue. but how to charge for that? (candleholders/birdbaths?)
I remember talking to Gail Dapogny on the way home from Indy and I think
some guilds have a formula worked out... can anybody give me a clue
here? I kind of have the cart ahead of the horse, and offered this up
without workingout the logistics. Leap, and the net will appear, right?
Anybody got a net?
Yours
Kelly in Ohio
where a dozen tomato plants are in, the bees are all over the cherry
blossoms, there's a sparrow commune in the blue spruce next to my studio
porch and they feed babies all day while I throw... and my mom took all
my little ones to the zoo today and left me with my brain all to myself.
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Mark Pitney on tue 10 may 05
Kelly,
Your best bet is to charge one fee and make the materials inclusive. Find
out what the going rate is at surrounding studios for a firing fee and that is
what you should charge. Really think it through whether or not you want people
coming into your space. Think through everything you will offer-like how
much shelf space ,when can people come and go ,do they get a key ,if you do sell
them the clay what about reclaim- where do they reclaim their clay, where do
they store the buckets of scrap ,if glaze does get all over a shelf who gets
to grind it, or pay for it, if someones piece blows up in a kiln do you
refund their money -you still have to pay the utility company, are you liable if
someone gets hurt. I am not trying to burst your bubble -no not at all I own
a teaching facility and this is also my studio so I know where you are about
to venture first hand Just think it through you'd be amazed at stuff that
happens.
Mark and Cindy
The Mudpit
228 Manhattan Ave.
Brooklyn,NY. 11206
_www.mudpitnyc.com_ (http://www.mudpitnyc.com/)
718-218-9424
mudpitnyc@aol.com
Susan Fox-Hirschmann on wed 11 may 05
In a message dated 5/10/2005 10:53:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Mudpitnyc@AOL.COM writes:
someone gets hurt. I am not trying to burst your bubble -no not at all I own
a teaching facility and this is also my studio so I know where you are about
to venture first hand Just think it through you'd be amazed at stuff that
happens.
Yep!!!!And things to explode and break other people's work...and on and on...
That is why I only fire the pieces of my students....work that I "oversee"
being created, just to give everyone's pieces a fighting chance to make it thru
the firings.
This is also my own studio and a teaching studio, and I have refused to fire
other people's work who are not involved here in the classes. Just makes good
sense.
Last session, I had one piece that blew off a bowl and ended up hitting
someone elses work and cracking the edge of someone else's piece: I have explained
to the class that things happen in firings and not all pieces make it, and
that is part of life working in clay. I have told them even some of my own
pieces don't make it, and I have been working in clay for over 28 years. I have
tried to instill in them an attitude that they can always make another piece, if
something does happen, and optomistically, that other piece can be an even
better one...that one can learn from each structural problem that may cause a
kiln problem.
Personally, this way, I never get concerned about the firings, but I sure do
fire my own work separate from new students. That also makes good sense to me.
Best of luck!
Susan
Annandale, VA
Elizabeth Priddy on thu 12 may 05
2-10 cents per square inch is a common fee per firing. You supply the glazes. It will keep the birdbath people at a reasonable rate. All reclaim is yours. 2 inch minimum on any dimension
And can you send me your rea; address offlist? I want to send you something.
Elizabet
primalmommy wrote:
Just of the summer, I am making some of my studio space/wheels available
for a small fee to some of my students fromthe guild and others who just
want to throw and don't have facilities.
it seemed like a simple enough idea, and then began to cascade: Shelf
space, OK. Then.. firing fees. How to figure that? Like mileage,
electric bill + kiln wash + wear and tear onthe elements, etc.? Should I
just go be kiln shelf, or is there a formula for how much per inch to
charge for pots, to differentiate between candle holders and birdbaths?
Then, of course -- glazes. I could have everybody buy or mix their own,
but i hate scraping shelves and some of these folks are beginners and
not there yet. I will insist that all clay is bought from me or from our
local and wonderful laguna dealer, so I know it's the right cone, but
the only way I can see having any control over the glazes is to mix a
few big buckets myself for "community use" -- licorice, clear, oatmeal
and maybe a blue. but how to charge for that? (candleholders/birdbaths?)
I remember talking to Gail Dapogny on the way home from Indy and I think
some guilds have a formula worked out... can anybody give me a clue
here? I kind of have the cart ahead of the horse, and offered this up
without workingout the logistics. Leap, and the net will appear, right?
Anybody got a net?
Yours
Kelly in Ohio
where a dozen tomato plants are in, the bees are all over the cherry
blossoms, there's a sparrow commune in the blue spruce next to my studio
porch and they feed babies all day while I throw... and my mom took all
my little ones to the zoo today and left me with my brain all to myself.
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