Eric Suchman on tue 10 may 05
Mother Nature seems to place all the toxic stuff (logically) all over the
place in very small quantities. No highly concentrated landfill
philosophies going on here. Flushing your artist ceramics studio washings
down the drain seems to be the most appropriate. Illegal doesn't mean wrong.
Industrial quantities are a different matter/concern.
> From: Richard Aerni
> Reply-To: Clayart
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:17:29 -0400
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: studio health-washing down-be careful??
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:54:31 -0700, Sam or Mary Yancy
> wrote:
>
>> Where does all the water/wash chemicals and dust/clay go??? Here in Daly
> city it goes directly to the ocean if you put it in a ourflow drain and is I
> believe is illegal.
>
> It may be illegal, but when Mother Nature does it, it is called erosion.
> Seems like it happens all the time. If you're washing so much bad stuff
> down your drain from your studio that you'll be contaminating all sea life
> around you, you are probably not using proper care in handling your materials.
>
> Richard Aerni
> Bloomfield, NY
>
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Sam or Mary Yancy on tue 10 may 05
Where does all the water/wash chemicals and dust/clay go??? Here in Daly city it goes directly to the ocean if you put it in a ourflow drain and is I believe is illegal. If down the sink, to a waste water plant which probably does not have the equipment to seperate it and keep it our of the water system. here waste water is use for parks and golf courses for watering plants and grass. then we play or sit on the grass........ Anybody think of the consequences???
Sam in Daly City.
P>S> This is from a guy with serious lung problems who thought precautions were for "babys" only a few years ago
mel jacobson wrote:
i am with the clean water patrol.
i have built a drain in the middle of my studio that
goes to the outside. slope in the floor.
i take my garden hose into the studio and let fly.
mop the tables and wedging board, let it run to the
floor. spray it all to the middle with a garden hose.
in fact, i think i will do that today.
waterWATERwater.
air flow in a kiln room, water on the
floor of the studio.
oiled saw dust after it all dries.
i just re finished a piece of furniture.
plastic gloves...12 pair.
windows wide open. big garbage can
with a heavy plastic bag liner.
tons of newpaper. and i scrub the stripper
with saw dust. throw it into the can.
roll up the paper, into the can. nothing touches
me. i did not do it this way 40 years ago.
i do now...and it makes the job so easy.
and safe. just makes sense.
we know a great deal more, and common sense tells
us to be careful...but, like using a chain saw...it does
not mean don't use it...it means be careful and follow some
simple rules. if you wrap your body and head in saran wrap
you cannot breath and you will die. don't be stupid.
be careful.
and don't smoke cigarettes.
geez.
mel
from mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
website: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
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Richard Aerni on tue 10 may 05
On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:54:31 -0700, Sam or Mary Yancy
wrote:
>Where does all the water/wash chemicals and dust/clay go??? Here in Daly
city it goes directly to the ocean if you put it in a ourflow drain and is I
believe is illegal.
It may be illegal, but when Mother Nature does it, it is called erosion.
Seems like it happens all the time. If you're washing so much bad stuff
down your drain from your studio that you'll be contaminating all sea life
around you, you are probably not using proper care in handling your materials.
Richard Aerni
Bloomfield, NY
Steve Slatin on wed 11 may 05
Eric --
(1) "Illegal doesn't mean wrong" is an attitude that
is reflects badly upon potters generally.
(2) If you are the only human on earth putting
anything into the ocean, you probably have a practical
excuse for violating standards. If you aren't -- and
Eric, you aren't -- you can't consider your actions
alone. It's like saying it doesn't make any
difference how many bullets you fire into the air
while blindfolded on New Year's Eve because your
personal bullets probably won't kill anyone of any
consequence. If every doofus with a pistol does it,
there will be injuries. (I lived in two countries
where this activity was common; yes there were
injuries or deaths every year.) Everyone has to cut
out the behaviour that degrades the general conditions
even if their contribution may not be noticed in order
for any improvement to take place.
(3) As many pollution problems are a result of
millions of folks doing something small-scale as are
from industrial, concentrated, pollution.
Off soapbox. Apologies for rant.
--- Eric Suchman wrote:
> Mother Nature seems to place all the toxic stuff
> (logically) all over the
> place in very small quantities. No highly
> concentrated landfill
> philosophies going on here. Flushing your artist
> ceramics studio washings
> down the drain seems to be the most appropriate.
> Illegal doesn't mean wrong.
> Industrial quantities are a different
> matter/concern.
>
Steve Slatin --
Sera que ela mexe o chocalho ou o chocalho e que mexe com ela
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