Annie Chrietzberg on mon 23 may 05
Hal -
I'd have to throw in my vote with big Tex here - from what I've
experienced, people that don't actually own & maintain equipment don't
get it. Plus, everytime someone puts a different claybody in, a
pugmill has to be taken apart and cleaned out, or there will be lots of
contaminated clay...perhaps no big deal for slightly different colored
stonewares, but if you've been following the conversations recently
about glaze fit, you really don't want to increase any unknowns with
your own clay.
And you sure as hell don't want a bunch of different people taking
apart, cleaning, and putting back together a piece of equipment you've
bought. Maybe you could find a decrepit pug mill for a song & rebuild
it for your own use?
I'd say don't buy equipment you can't afford with the idea of charging
other people to use it to help you pay for it! Get on potter barter &
see what you can find....
Annie
On May 23, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Dale Neese wrote:
> Been there, done that. People will show up with ugly buckets of
> questionable
> slop, hard blocks of clay that wouldn't begin to go through a pug
> mill. Not
> worth my time or any amount of money that would cause a disruption in
> my
> work day.
>
> Dale Tex
> "across the alley from the Alamo"
> San Antonio, Texas, USA
>
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Kathi LeSueur on mon 23 may 05
Hal Giddens wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I currently recycle all my clay by hand as I don't have enough to justify
>the cost of a pugmill but enough to make doing it by hand a small chore.
>Do any of you that own pugmils ever recycle clay for other potters for a
>fee?
>
>If you do, how much do you charge?
>
>If you don't, what are the reasons that you don't?
>
>ings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org>>>>>
>
Never, because I don't want to contaminate my clay with another clay and
it's very time consuming to take the machine apart and clean it for
different clays.
Kathi
>
>
>
>
Hal Giddens on mon 23 may 05
Hello all.
I currently recycle all my clay by hand as I don't have enough to justify
the cost of a pugmill but enough to make doing it by hand a small chore.
Do any of you that own pugmils ever recycle clay for other potters for a
fee?
If you do, how much do you charge?
If you don't, what are the reasons that you don't?
Thanks.
Hal Giddens
Home Grown Pottery
1578 Rockledge Road
Rockledge, Ga 30454
kenhal@bellsouth.net
Dale Neese on mon 23 may 05
Been there, done that. People will show up with ugly buckets of questionable
slop, hard blocks of clay that wouldn't begin to go through a pug mill. Not
worth my time or any amount of money that would cause a disruption in my
work day.
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Marcia Selsor on tue 24 may 05
Dear Hal,
I have a big plaster vat I got from Archied Bray, Clay Business. I
use it for all types of clay. AND I also like clay that has been
slipped and recinstituted. I find it more plastic.
I soak clay in 5 gallon buckets and then put two ot three in the vat.
Let it set over night or for 2 days and it is done. Takes care of all
those scraps.
Very passive system.
Marcia Selsor
>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> I currently recycle all my clay by hand as I don't have enough to
>> justify
>> the cost of a pugmill but enough to make doing it by hand a small
>> chore.
>> Do any of you that own pugmils ever recycle clay for other potters
>> for a
>> fee?
>>
>> SNIP
Hal Giddens on tue 24 may 05
Thanks to all of those that replied to my query. I got the answers I
expected which was the the concern about contamination of clay or of
having to clean the pug mill between using the different clays. One of the
reasons I asked the question was since there seem to be so many of us who
recycle our clay manually and mix up all our different clays and use it
without problems that there might be one or two who own pug mills who also
don't worry about it, but I guess not. Just a simple question hoping for a
simple answer.
I would like to add in response to Annie Chrietzberg that "YES I DO GET
IT" with regard to owning and maintaining equipment and don't know what
that has to do with my question but then again I'm just a dumb ole country
boy.
I would never think of touching anoyne elses pug mill or any of their
equipment.
I never even thought about buying a pug mill with the intent of charging
other people to use it to help pay for it.
Yes I've been following the conversations recently about glaze fit. I use
4 different Standard clays and last year I bought 3 diffrent kinds of
Highwater clay from a potter friend who was moving to Oregon and have not
had any problems with any of my cone 6 glazes including a couple of the
MCG6 glazes and that also includes recycled clay made up of different
clays not just different colored clay.
And Annie, I will be in Steamboat Springs the middle of June for some R&R
with the family and was wondering if I could stop by and visit with you
folks. I promise I won't touch anything or ask any questions!!
No wonder so many people don't ask more questions on this list.
Again thanks to all that did respond.
Hal Giddens
Home Grown Pottery
1578 Rockledge Road
Rockledge Ga 30454
kenhal@bellsouth.net
Annie Chrietzberg on tue 24 may 05
Hal - what I was trying to say is that other people wouldn't respect
YOUR equipment, or other people wouldn't know how to use it, could get
hurt/damage it - not that you didn't get something. Sorry I wasn't
more clear - I wasn't slamming you - and intended no insult to you
whatsoever. Please re-read my post. Hear it with an upbeat voice of
someone who was only trying to help.....
best,
Annie
On May 24, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Hal Giddens wrote:
> Thanks to all of those that replied to my query. I got the answers I
> expected which was the the concern about contamination of clay or of
> having to clean the pug mill between using the different clays. One of
> the
> reasons I asked the question was since there seem to be so many of us
> who
> recycle our clay manually and mix up all our different clays and use it
> without problems that there might be one or two who own pug mills who
> also
> don't worry about it, but I guess not. Just a simple question hoping
> for a
> simple answer.
>
> I would like to add in response to Annie Chrietzberg that "YES I DO GET
> IT" with regard to owning and maintaining equipment and don't know what
> that has to do with my question but then again I'm just a dumb ole
> country
> boy.
>
> I would never think of touching anoyne elses pug mill or any of their
> equipment.
>
> I never even thought about buying a pug mill with the intent of
> charging
> other people to use it to help pay for it.
>
> Yes I've been following the conversations recently about glaze fit. I
> use
> 4 different Standard clays and last year I bought 3 diffrent kinds of
> Highwater clay from a potter friend who was moving to Oregon and have
> not
> had any problems with any of my cone 6 glazes including a couple of the
> MCG6 glazes and that also includes recycled clay made up of different
> clays not just different colored clay.
>
> And Annie, I will be in Steamboat Springs the middle of June for some
> R&R
> with the family and was wondering if I could stop by and visit with you
> folks. I promise I won't touch anything or ask any questions!!
>
>
> No wonder so many people don't ask more questions on this list.
>
>
> Again thanks to all that did respond.
>
> Hal Giddens
> Home Grown Pottery
> 1578 Rockledge Road
> Rockledge Ga 30454
> kenhal@bellsouth.net
>
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