Marvin Klotz on sat 4 jun 05
Nutmeg is a glaze that was developed by Richard Busch. The recipe was
given in a Ceramics Monthly article "A Wood-fired Look from an Electric
Kiln" February 2003. I don't know of any commercial source for the
glaze. Incidentally, in the same article, Mr. Busch gave a recipe for
White Satin Matt, which was forwarded to Clayart a couple of days ago - the
same recipe Ron Roy expressed concerns about today because of its low
Coefficient of Expansion. Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
about mixing it up if you have access to glaze mixing facilities.
Regards,
Joan Klotz
At 02:48 PM 6/4/2005, you wrote:
Snip
> asked her if she would share with me where she got the beautiful rust
> color glaze she used in some of her pots. She told me that she couldn't
> remember the source but that it was called nutmeg and she fires it to 6^.
> Does anyone know who makes that glaze and where can I purchase some?
>Thanks, Ronnie
>
ronnie beezer on sat 4 jun 05
I just came from a craft show and met this very talented potter that was selling beautiful pottery. After speaking with her for a while and admiring her work I asked her if she would share with me where she got the beautiful rust color glaze she used in some of her pots. She told me that she couldn't remember the source but that it was called nutmeg and she fires it to 6^. Does anyone know who makes that glaze and where can I purchase some?
Thanks, Ronnie
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Lee Love on sun 5 jun 05
On 2005/06/05 6:48:44, ronniebeezer@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just came from a craft show and met this very talented potter that was
> selling beautiful pottery. After speaking with her for a while and
> admiring her work I asked her if she would share with me where she
got the
> beautiful rust color glaze she used in some of her pots. She told me
that
> she couldn't remember the source but that it was called nutmeg and
she fires it to 6^. Does anyone know who makes that glaze and where can
I purchase some?
> Thanks, Ronnie
A Wood-Fired Look from an Electric Kiln
by Richard Busch February 2003 issue CM. (it is on their webpage and you
can access the article if you are a subscriber:
http://ceramicsmonthly.org/cmpc/richcontent/feb03_4547.pdf) I didn't
download it. I am only at ISDN rates so it takes a couple minutes.
The photos of the work looked good to me when I first read the article.
I would like to see the glaze in the flue channel of my wood kiln (may
recalculate and try it.)
Recipes from ClayArt Archives (If I recall, these two glazes were used
layered. Also, someone complained about the low expansion rate, so use
your head ;^) ):
Nutmeg ^6 White Satin ^ 6
----------------------- --------------------------
Dolomite 23.30 Gerstly Borate 31.63
Spodumene 23.30 Talc 13.95
Frit 3134 6.80 Kona F4 F.spar 19.80
OM4 ball clay 23.30 Kaolin 4.98
Silica 23.30 Silica 29.64
Red Iron Oxide 1.07 Zircopax 5.11
Yellow Ocher 3.24 Bentonite 1.99
Tin Oxide 4.85
Bentonite 1.94
--
李 Lee Love 大
愛 鱗
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://hankos.blogspot.com/ Visual Bookmarks
http://ikiru.blogspot.com/ Zen and Craft
"With Humans it's what's here (he points to his heart) that makes the
difference. If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will
make a difference." ~~Bernard Leach~~ (As told to Dean Schwarz)
Mert & Holly Kilpatrick on sun 5 jun 05
Google turns up the following:
http://www.potters.org/subject70392.htm
http://www.potters.org/subject82465.htm
Search of the Ceramics Monthly index
http://www.ceramicsmonthly.org/articleindex.asp
turns up the following:
Article: A Wood-Fired Lookfrom an Electric Kiln
Author(s): Richard Busch
Issue: February 2003, Page 45
These are glazes you make yourself, not commercial glazes.
Holly
East Bangor, PA
Ronnie Beezer wrote:
>
> I asked her if she would share with me where she got the
> beautiful rust color glaze she used in some of her pots. She told me that
> she couldn't remember the source but that it was called nutmeg and she
> fires it to 6^. Does anyone know who makes that glaze and where can I
> purchase some?
> Thanks, Ronnie
Lee Love on sun 5 jun 05
Marvin Klotz wrote:
>
> White Satin Matt, which was forwarded to Clayart a couple of days ago
> - the
> same recipe Ron Roy expressed concerns about today because of its low
> Coefficient of Expansion. Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
> about mixing it up if you have access to glaze mixing facilities.
Joan,
I think Ron had worries about the Nutmeg glaze. See below (the Nutmeg
was the first recipe):
>
> Ron Roy on sat 15 may 04 (ronroy@CA.INTER.NET
> )
>
>
> Just a few words of cauction!
>
> Both glazes have a low expansion rate - especially the first one -
> best to
> test em first on your clay.
--
李 Lee Love 大
愛 鱗
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://hankos.blogspot.com/ Visual Bookmarks
http://ikiru.blogspot.com/ Zen and Craft
"With Humans it's what's here (he points to his heart) that makes the difference. If you don't have it in the heart, nothing you make will make a difference." ~~Bernard Leach~~ (As told to Dean Schwarz)
Ron Roy on sun 5 jun 05
Yes - both glazes are low expanders - not hard to fix if you have some
experience with glaze calculation.
The first one is easy - just take out the spodumene and replace it G200 -
move the Old Mine 4 up to 27.8 and the silica down to 17.8 - the new total
will be 110.1 (the old total is 111.1.)
RR
>Recipes from ClayArt Archives (If I recall, these two glazes were used
>layered. Also, someone complained about the low expansion rate, so use
>your head ;^) ):
>
>Nutmeg ^6 White Satin ^ 6
>----------------------- --------------------------
>Dolomite 23.30 Gerstly Borate 31.63
>Spodumene 23.30 Talc 13.95
>Frit 3134 6.80 Kona F4 F.spar 19.80
>OM4 ball clay 23.30 Kaolin 4.98
>Silica 23.30 Silica 29.64
>
>Red Iron Oxide 1.07 Zircopax 5.11
>Yellow Ocher 3.24 Bentonite 1.99
>Tin Oxide 4.85
>Bentonite 1.94
Ron Roy
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Carole Fox on mon 6 jun 05
When I saw the recipe and photo of Nutmeg glaze in my magazine, I ran to the
studio and mixed up a small test batch. My test tile came out just like the
photo and so I mixed up a big bucketful. I'm sure you can guess what's
coming...the pieces I glazed with the big batch recipe were nothing like the
test tile or the photo. They all are a golden matt glaze and I don't know
what went wrong. When customers say they like the glaze, I want to smack
them! If they only knew what it should really like.
Okay- so now I have this big bucket of glaze and I don't like it. I thought
maybe I wasn't putting the glaze on thickly enough, but when I tried to put
it on more thickly, the dried glaze cracked and peeled. What's a girl to do?
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
thesilverfox@dol.net
----- Original Message -----
Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
> about mixing it up Regards,
> Joan Klotz
Nick Molatore on mon 6 jun 05
By the way, a 50/50 mix of Nutmeg and White Satin Matt makes a BEAUTIFUL
glaze.
-Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Klotz"
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: nutmeg glaze
> Nutmeg is a glaze that was developed by Richard Busch. The recipe was
> given in a Ceramics Monthly article "A Wood-fired Look from an Electric
> Kiln" February 2003. I don't know of any commercial source for the
> glaze. Incidentally, in the same article, Mr. Busch gave a recipe for
> White Satin Matt, which was forwarded to Clayart a couple of days ago -
> the
> same recipe Ron Roy expressed concerns about today because of its low
> Coefficient of Expansion. Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
> about mixing it up if you have access to glaze mixing facilities.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joan Klotz
>
> At 02:48 PM 6/4/2005, you wrote:
>
> Snip
>
>> asked her if she would share with me where she got the beautiful rust
>> color glaze she used in some of her pots. She told me that she couldn't
>> remember the source but that it was called nutmeg and she fires it to 6^.
>> Does anyone know who makes that glaze and where can I purchase some?
>>Thanks, Ronnie
>>
>
william schran on mon 6 jun 05
Carole wrote:>I'm sure you can guess what's
coming...the pieces I glazed with the big batch recipe were nothing like the
test tile or the photo. They all are a golden matt glaze and I don't know
what went wrong. <
My first thought would be that all the materials are not stirred up
into the glaze - but I know Carole would make certain the glaze was
stirred properly. I would run some more tests to be sure there is
indeed a problem with this particular batch.
When I find, or a student finds, a glaze that peeks our interest, we
mix a 100 gram test and apply to little cylinders made with an
extruder in 1,2 and 3 layers. If this test works well, then another
larger batch is made - 500 grams, and this is tested on vertical and
horizontal shapes through at least two firings. If it still looks
like a keeper, then larger amounts are used.
We've also been using the "nutmeg" glaze, but ours was a combination
of 2 glazes from the CM article.
It's a very nice orangeish brown when thin and gets creamy when
thick. I've also been using this glaze in my gas kiln, ^6 light
reduction, with similar results.
Bill
Cindy in SD on mon 6 jun 05
Dear Carole,
I don't know the nutmeg glaze you're using, but I have a glaze I
developed myself I call nutmeg. If I cool it slowly, it is a golden
matte; if it cools naturally, it is variegated between nutmeg, blue,
black, brown--glossy. Pretty cool glaze either way, but I prefer the
fast cool version. Could this be your problem?
Best wishes,
Cindy in SD
Carole Fox wrote:
> When I saw the recipe and photo of Nutmeg glaze in my magazine, I ran
> to the
> studio and mixed up a small test batch. My test tile came out just
> like the
> photo and so I mixed up a big bucketful. I'm sure you can guess what's
> coming...the pieces I glazed with the big batch recipe were nothing
> like the
> test tile or the photo. They all are a golden matt glaze and I don't know
> what went wrong. When customers say they like the glaze, I want to smack
> them! If they only knew what it should really like.
>
> Okay- so now I have this big bucket of glaze and I don't like it. I
> thought
> maybe I wasn't putting the glaze on thickly enough, but when I tried
> to put
> it on more thickly, the dried glaze cracked and peeled. What's a girl
> to do?
>
> Carole Fox
> Silver Fox Pottery
> Elkton, MD
> thesilverfox@dol.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
>
>> about mixing it up Regards,
>
> > Joan Klotz
>
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Lee Love on mon 6 jun 05
Carole Fox wrote:
>
>
> Okay- so now I have this big bucket of glaze and I don't like it. I
> thought
> maybe I wasn't putting the glaze on thickly enough, but when I tried
> to put
> it on more thickly, the dried glaze cracked and peeled. What's a girl
> to do?
How much white mat did you mix with the nutmeg? The author says he mixed
1/4 or less white mat into the nutmeg.
--
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Marvin Klotz on mon 6 jun 05
Its probably the thickness of application as you suspected Carol, but you
went the wrong way. Applied thinly the glaze gives a deep rust color, the
thicker the lighter the color. However as Richard Busch also mentioned in
his post, the clay base also can make a difference.
Regards,
Joan Klotz
At 04:58 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote:
>When I saw the recipe and photo of Nutmeg glaze in my magazine, I ran to the
>studio and mixed up a small test batch. My test tile came out just like the
>photo and so I mixed up a big bucketful. I'm sure you can guess what's
>coming...the pieces I glazed with the big batch recipe were nothing like the
>test tile or the photo. They all are a golden matt glaze and I don't know
>what went wrong. ...Snip
>
> I thought
>maybe I wasn't putting the glaze on thickly enough, but when I tried to put
>it on more thickly, the dried glaze cracked and peeled. What's a girl to do?
mel jacobson on mon 6 jun 05
there are at least 785 variations on the glaze `nutmeg`.
cone 06 to 10.
253 are called cinnamon. 126 are called curry.
63 are named `hazelnut`. i named a glaze `chutney`.
same as my dog.
when you divide the number of glazes by the
2,543 clay bodies out there...it means that
there are 23,456 combinations for nutmeg alone.
add to that the thinness and thickness element, along
with how cones are read...the combinations are endless.
just think about that for a minute.
try and copy it.
`does anyone have a recipe for a pink glaze. cone 6?`
i have a commission for 6 mugs...they want names of
children on them...gotta be done this week. but, i am getting
6 dollars each for them.
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Debbie White on mon 6 jun 05
I recently used this glaze combination and found that I probably put too
much of the white matte as it was not as red as I wanted. I added more
nutmeg.......but found if it was too thick it would be more golden.....I
thinned out the glaze combination with more water and I got more rust colour
which I was happy with.
Debbie
Wolverton Hills Pottery
Pontypool, Ontario
www.wolvertonhills.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Carole Fox
Sent: June 6, 2005 7:59 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: nutmeg glaze
When I saw the recipe and photo of Nutmeg glaze in my magazine, I ran to the
studio and mixed up a small test batch. My test tile came out just like the
photo and so I mixed up a big bucketful. I'm sure you can guess what's
coming...the pieces I glazed with the big batch recipe were nothing like the
test tile or the photo. They all are a golden matt glaze and I don't know
what went wrong. When customers say they like the glaze, I want to smack
them! If they only knew what it should really like.
Okay- so now I have this big bucket of glaze and I don't like it. I thought
maybe I wasn't putting the glaze on thickly enough, but when I tried to put
it on more thickly, the dried glaze cracked and peeled. What's a girl to do?
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
thesilverfox@dol.net
----- Original Message -----
Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
> about mixing it up Regards,
> Joan Klotz
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Carole Fox on mon 6 jun 05
Debbie-
Well, ya know, it occurred to me that I might have it on too thick, but he
caption under the photo said to put it on thick as I recall. I'm going to
try it thinner and see if that works for me. Thanks for your suggestion.
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
thesilverfox@dol.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie White"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: nutmeg glaze
>I recently used this glaze combination and found that I probably put too
> much of the white matte as it was not as red as I wanted. I added more
> nutmeg.......but found if it was too thick it would be more golden.....I
> thinned out the glaze combination with more water and I got more rust
> colour
> which I was happy with.
> Debbie
> Wolverton Hills Pottery
> Pontypool, Ontario
> www.wolvertonhills.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Carole Fox
> Sent: June 6, 2005 7:59 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: nutmeg glaze
>
>
> When I saw the recipe and photo of Nutmeg glaze in my magazine, I ran to
> the
> studio and mixed up a small test batch. My test tile came out just like
> the
> photo and so I mixed up a big bucketful. I'm sure you can guess what's
> coming...the pieces I glazed with the big batch recipe were nothing like
> the
> test tile or the photo. They all are a golden matt glaze and I don't know
> what went wrong. When customers say they like the glaze, I want to smack
> them! If they only knew what it should really like.
>
> Okay- so now I have this big bucket of glaze and I don't like it. I
> thought
> maybe I wasn't putting the glaze on thickly enough, but when I tried to
> put
> it on more thickly, the dried glaze cracked and peeled. What's a girl to
> do?
>
> Carole Fox
> Silver Fox Pottery
> Elkton, MD
> thesilverfox@dol.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Nutmeg is a very reliable glaze, nothing tricky
>> about mixing it up Regards,
> > Joan Klotz
>
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william schran on mon 6 jun 05
Debbie wrote:>I recently used this glaze combination and found that I
probably put too
much of the white matte as it was not as red as I wanted. I added more
nutmeg.......but found if it was too thick it would be more golden.....I
thinned out the glaze combination with more water and I got more rust colour
which I was happy with.<
When this glaze was first published in CM, I had some students mix a
variety of combinations of the two glazes. With tests in hand we
selected the combination that "looked best" to all of us. I then took
the ingredients of the two glazes (several materials were the same
for each glaze) and combined them together into a single glaze
recipe. The thickness of application will result in a rust/orange to
a cream color.
Bill
Tig Dupre on tue 7 jun 05
--------------------------<>-----------------------
there are at least 785 variations on the glaze `nutmeg`.
cone 06 to 10.
253 are called cinnamon. 126 are called curry.
63 are named `hazelnut`. i named a glaze `chutney`.
same as my dog.
when you divide the number of glazes by the
2,543 clay bodies out there...it means that
there are 23,456 combinations for nutmeg alone.
add to that the thinness and thickness element, along
with how cones are read...the combinations are endless.
--------------------------<>-----------------------
Mel,
You left out the variants of different kilns, different atmospheres, different firing fuels, weather, humidity, phase of the moon, whether the dog is in the kiln room or not, and the color of my mood ring.
I'd be willing to bet that you and I could make pots from the same pug of clay, bisque them side-by-side in the same kiln, glaze them from the same bucket, and fire them in the same electric ^6 kiln, and they'd come out looking differently.
The point here is that I gave up LONG ago on having my pots look the same as the cover of the latest Ceramics Monthly. The best I can do is come close. But, WHY?
Richard Busch's Nutmeg looks nice, and I find that a few tweaks to allow for my style make Nutmeg a very nice addition to my glaze pallete. But, does *my* Nutmeg look exactly like Richard Busch's? No. I didn't expect it to. I am not Richard Busch (a fact for which I am certain he is extremely grateful! :o) )
Most of what I do is for the sheer enjoyment of making pottery, solving form and glaze problems, and having other people like what I do. I am not able to make a full-time living at it yet, but I'm getting close.
Has anyone heard news of Don Reitz? How is he doing?
Have fun,
Tig Dupre
in Port Orchard, Washington, USA
William & Susan Schran User on wed 23 nov 05
In the Nov/Dec issue of Pottery Making Illustrated, Richard Busch wrote an
article: "The Look of Wood Fire".
In the article he writes about combining two glazes to achieve a warm
orange/brown wood fire look at ^6 oxidation.
Richard contacted me sometime ago about my experiments doing a line blend of
the two glazes and the final glaze we settled on as a studio glaze where I
teach.
The glaze we used is included in the article with a short note about it.
There is also a note from Ron Roy with concerns about the coefficient of
expansion, including substitute materials.
Thank you Ron for your input. I will make the substitutions and report back
my results.
We used the glaze as listed on several clay bodies and have not had any
problems with crazing or shivering. The glaze seems to work well at ^5 and I
have also fired it in reduction at a flat ^6, ^7 bending, results similar to
oxidation.
We are currently firing to ^10 reduction at school, but I continue to fire
^6 reduction at home and would appreciate all input from anyone using this
glaze.
-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
Eva Gallagher on wed 23 nov 05
Hello Bill - the Nutmeg glaze is used extensively by our guild members -
plain Nutmeg not the mix of the two - white and nutmeg. I find it works best
on a white or cream clay, with an iron underglaze wash (applied and then
washed off so get dark in the depressions and cracks. After glazing I spray
rutile/colemanite and red Fe/rutile/colmanite to highlight and flash certain
areas. Nice wonderful yellow-orangey colours.
On brown clay the nutmeg is not quite as good as another glaze that we use
called Stoney Beige which is a cone 8 glaze but seems good at a high 6 or 7.
Get nice rusts with iron underglaze. These rusts do not seem to develop with
the Nutmeg. The stoney biege has tin in it which I think helps the rusts. On
white clay the Beige is not very good.
I must try the mix of white and nutmeg as described in the article.
Regards,
Eva Gallagher
Deep River Potters' Guild
----- Original Message -----
From: "William & Susan Schran User"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: Nutmeg glaze
> In the Nov/Dec issue of Pottery Making Illustrated, Richard Busch wrote an
> article: "The Look of Wood Fire".
>
> In the article he writes about combining two glazes to achieve a warm
> orange/brown wood fire look at ^6 oxidation.
>
> Richard contacted me sometime ago about my experiments doing a line blend
> of
> the two glazes and the final glaze we settled on as a studio glaze where I
> teach.
>
> The glaze we used is included in the article with a short note about it.
> There is also a note from Ron Roy with concerns about the coefficient of
> expansion, including substitute materials.
>
> Thank you Ron for your input. I will make the substitutions and report
> back
> my results.
>
> We used the glaze as listed on several clay bodies and have not had any
> problems with crazing or shivering. The glaze seems to work well at ^5 and
> I
> have also fired it in reduction at a flat ^6, ^7 bending, results similar
> to
> oxidation.
>
> We are currently firing to ^10 reduction at school, but I continue to fire
> ^6 reduction at home and would appreciate all input from anyone using this
> glaze.
>
> -- William "Bill" Schran
> Fredericksburg, Virginia
> wschran@cox.net
> wschran@nvcc.edu
>
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Randy McCall on wed 23 nov 05
My experience with Cone 6 with nutmeg glaze.
In a gas fired kiln I got a honey colored smooth glaze. Not at all like
Richard's.
In electric I got a shino type glaze if I substituted the kaolin for redart
which I like a lot. If you put it on thin you get a rough reddish brick
color. The more layers turns it to a cream color. I like to put a thin
layer on then spray or brush a layer of wodo white. It can give you a wood
fired look when applied this way. It works good if you texture the clay.
I never could get it like Richards. When I fire his in electric it gives a
reddish brown.
Randy
Pottery Web Site
members.tripod.com/~McCallJ/index.html
South Carolina
----- Original Message -----
From: "William & Susan Schran User"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: Nutmeg glaze
> In the Nov/Dec issue of Pottery Making Illustrated, Richard Busch wrote an
> article: "The Look of Wood Fire".
>
> In the article he writes about combining two glazes to achieve a warm
> orange/brown wood fire look at ^6 oxidation.
>
> Richard contacted me sometime ago about my experiments doing a line blend
> of
> the two glazes and the final glaze we settled on as a studio glaze where I
> teach.
>
> The glaze we used is included in the article with a short note about it.
> There is also a note from Ron Roy with concerns about the coefficient of
> expansion, including substitute materials.
>
> Thank you Ron for your input. I will make the substitutions and report
> back
> my results.
>
> We used the glaze as listed on several clay bodies and have not had any
> problems with crazing or shivering. The glaze seems to work well at ^5 and
> I
> have also fired it in reduction at a flat ^6, ^7 bending, results similar
> to
> oxidation.
>
> We are currently firing to ^10 reduction at school, but I continue to fire
> ^6 reduction at home and would appreciate all input from anyone using this
> glaze.
>
> -- William "Bill" Schran
> Fredericksburg, Virginia
> wschran@cox.net
> wschran@nvcc.edu
>
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Noel Jensen on thu 24 nov 05
I have just been getting back into ceramics after a 20+ year hiatus. My
only glazing experience had been at cone 10 reduction, so Richard Busch's
reduction-look Nutmeg Glaze for Cone 6 electric (found in a back issue of
CM) seemed to be just what the doctor ordered. I have been testing this
glaze for a couple of months now in various blends and layers with the
Community Center White Matte recipe from the same article at both Cone 6
and 7 and have been very satisfied with the results. It can be very shino-
esque in the right situation. I have also tried the glaze with at least one
other white matte glaze (Chappel), in combination, and was also pleased
with that result.
I haven't read the PMI article yet, but will probably try to track that
down - I'd like to know the recommended substitutions.
Noel Jensen
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Randy McCall on thu 24 nov 05
Eva,,,,,,,,,,would you mind sharing with Clayart the Stoney Beige recipe.
If that is better than nutmeg I would really like to try it.
Randy
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South Carolina
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eva Gallagher"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Nutmeg glaze
> Hello Bill - the Nutmeg glaze is used extensively by our guild members -
> plain Nutmeg not the mix of the two - white and nutmeg. I find it works
> best
> on a white or cream clay, with an iron underglaze wash (applied and then
> washed off so get dark in the depressions and cracks. After glazing I
> spray
> rutile/colemanite and red Fe/rutile/colmanite to highlight and flash
> certain
> areas. Nice wonderful yellow-orangey colours.
> On brown clay the nutmeg is not quite as good as another glaze that we use
> called Stoney Beige which is a cone 8 glaze but seems good at a high 6 or
> 7.
> Get nice rusts with iron underglaze. These rusts do not seem to develop
> with
> the Nutmeg. The stoney biege has tin in it which I think helps the rusts.
> On
> white clay the Beige is not very good.
> I must try the mix of white and nutmeg as described in the article.
> Regards,
> Eva Gallagher
> Deep River Potters' Guild
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William & Susan Schran User"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:03 AM
> Subject: Nutmeg glaze
>
>
> > In the Nov/Dec issue of Pottery Making Illustrated, Richard Busch wrote
> > an
> > article: "The Look of Wood Fire".
> >
> > In the article he writes about combining two glazes to achieve a warm
> > orange/brown wood fire look at ^6 oxidation.
> >
> > Richard contacted me sometime ago about my experiments doing a line
> > blend
> > of
> > the two glazes and the final glaze we settled on as a studio glaze where
> > I
> > teach.
> >
> > The glaze we used is included in the article with a short note about it.
> > There is also a note from Ron Roy with concerns about the coefficient of
> > expansion, including substitute materials.
> >
> > Thank you Ron for your input. I will make the substitutions and report
> > back
> > my results.
> >
> > We used the glaze as listed on several clay bodies and have not had any
> > problems with crazing or shivering. The glaze seems to work well at ^5
> > and
> > I
> > have also fired it in reduction at a flat ^6, ^7 bending, results
> > similar
> > to
> > oxidation.
> >
> > We are currently firing to ^10 reduction at school, but I continue to
> > fire
> > ^6 reduction at home and would appreciate all input from anyone using
> > this
> > glaze.
> >
> > -- William "Bill" Schran
> > Fredericksburg, Virginia
> > wschran@cox.net
> > wschran@nvcc.edu
> >
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Fred Hagen on fri 25 nov 05
How do you get the reduction at home --if you go to cone 6 I'm assuming that you have an electric kiln?
Fred Hagen
William & Susan Schran User wrote:
In the Nov/Dec issue of Pottery Making Illustrated, Richard Busch wrote an
article: "The Look of Wood Fire".
In the article he writes about combining two glazes to achieve a warm
orange/brown wood fire look at ^6 oxidation.
Richard contacted me sometime ago about my experiments doing a line blend of
the two glazes and the final glaze we settled on as a studio glaze where I
teach.
The glaze we used is included in the article with a short note about it.
There is also a note from Ron Roy with concerns about the coefficient of
expansion, including substitute materials.
Thank you Ron for your input. I will make the substitutions and report back
my results.
We used the glaze as listed on several clay bodies and have not had any
problems with crazing or shivering. The glaze seems to work well at ^5 and I
have also fired it in reduction at a flat ^6, ^7 bending, results similar to
oxidation.
We are currently firing to ^10 reduction at school, but I continue to fire
^6 reduction at home and would appreciate all input from anyone using this
glaze.
-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
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William & Susan Schran User on fri 25 nov 05
On 11/25/05 9:24 AM, "Fred Hagen" wrote:
> How do you get the reduction at home --if you go to cone 6 I'm assuming that
> you have an electric kiln?
I have an electric kiln for bisque and ^6 crystalline glazes firings and a
small gas kiln for ^6 reduction.
-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
Sue Beach on sat 26 nov 05
I have been experimenting with this glaze, too. I got the recipe from the CM
article of a few years ago.
My test batch was great. Loved it. Toasty brown. Very nice.
Mixed a larger batch & (you guessed it) now can't get toasty brown for anything.
Nice white, though.
Must've done something wrong, I thought, so I mixed up another batch. Nope.
Still white.
After reading these posts, I think perhaps my glaze is too thick. Gonna try
thinning it down when I glaze this weekend.
Sue Beach
Muncie,IN
Carole Fox on sat 26 nov 05
Same thing happened to me. After I thinned the glaze and wet the bisque, I
got that toasty rusty speckled brown that was on my test tile. Try it!
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Beach"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Nutmeg glaze
>I have been experimenting with this glaze, too. I got the recipe from the
>CM
> article of a few years ago.
>
> My test batch was great. Loved it. Toasty brown. Very nice.
>
> Mixed a larger batch & (you guessed it) now can't get toasty brown for
> anything.
> Nice white, though.
>
> Must've done something wrong, I thought, so I mixed up another batch.
> Nope.
> Still white.
>
> After reading these posts, I think perhaps my glaze is too thick. Gonna
> try
> thinning it down when I glaze this weekend.
>
> Sue Beach
> Muncie,IN
>
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William & Susan Schran User on sat 26 nov 05
On 11/26/05 9:18 AM, "Sue Beach" wrote:
> After reading these posts, I think perhaps my glaze is too thick. Gonna try
> thinning it down when I glaze this weekend.
Might want to water down smaller amounts and do a hydrometer reading on each
so you can reproduce the batch that works the best.
An alternative is to wet the pot before you dip in the too thick glaze to
get a thinner coating.
-- William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
Fran D on sun 26 mar 06
I've used this glaze (very successfully!) for several years and have not =
had any problems with it. Microwaves well and with the addition of a =
white glaze you can get more variety. At ^6 the straight Nutmeg is a =
bit dry, but at ^7, in my kiln, it glosses nicely.
TerraForms Pottery, LLC
757-962-7199
email: fran.terraforms@cox.net
Nanci Mansfield on sun 26 mar 06
I'm glad to hear this. I'm getting ready to try a cone 7 firing just to see what happens. Thanks so much.
Nanci
Fran D wrote:
I've used this glaze (very successfully!) for several years and have not had any problems with it. Microwaves well and with the addition of a white glaze you can get more variety. At ^6 the straight Nutmeg is a bit dry, but at ^7, in my kiln, it glosses nicely.
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757-962-7199
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John Hesselberth on sun 26 mar 06
On Mar 26, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Fran D wrote:
> At ^6 the straight Nutmeg is a bit dry, but at ^7, in my kiln, it
> glosses nicely.
So it probably is an unmelted matte at cone 6. By calculation it
should be glossy or semi-glossy. So I would guess this glaze would be
fine at cone 8, nearly melted at cone 7 and pretty questionable at
cone 6.
One of the big problems with the literature at cone 6 is that a lot
of potters tried to adapt cone 10 glazes to work at cone 6 without
really knowing how to formulate a durable cone 6 glaze. They did a
particularly poor job on mattes and semimattes. There are quite a
number of cone 6 mattes in the literature that have very low levels
of silica and/or alumina and they are very unstable. There are also
some at cone 10, but it is somewhat less of a problem there from the
standpoint of what has been published. Stable and beautiful mattes
can be made at cone 6--usually by increasing the calcium or magnesium
or strontium levels outside what the so-called limit formulas call
for. That's why I don't like limit formulas. Some of those that have
been published also teach one to make unstable mattes and completely
miss the area where stable mattes exist--but I'll save that rant for
another day.
Regards,
John
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