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we're all rip off artists - 2 cents worth

updated tue 7 jun 05

 

Leanne Juliana on mon 6 jun 05


I'm of two minds on the subject. In Bev's case, perhaps more investigation is in order, after all it is entirely possible that this other person really did come about the same inspiration. After all, you do live in the same area and would be theroretically inspired by similar things. The difference between Ghram Bell and the other guy was the trip to the patent office. Perhaps ask the person some questions, "This is really interesting work, how long have you been developing it? Who are your role models, inspirations? etc." The other thing is that, as someone pointed out earlier. The true artist will survive, the rest will slowly dissipate into the wind. If it bothers you that much, ask them to stop.

On the other hand, I'm reminded of my undergrad days when I was developing crystal glazes. I took Snyder's recipe and worked and worked it until I got it down to cone 5. Once the pieces started rolling out EVERYone wanted to do it. But, then they tried....and resorted to taking my failed ones out of the trash. I was happy to help out, but it got to a point where i felt they should do the durn work themselves like i did. (it took six months to get anything) So. I can sympathize. Of course, I see stuff i love all the time and borrow bits and pieces, and then add my own twist. So. . . Do what you can live with, but be nice about it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy in SD
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:09:12 -0600
Subject: Re: We're all rip off artists - Art is what you do, not what it looks like


My opinion . . .

Art involves creating something which is, in some way, original. When I
make a new design of my own creation, that is art--for good or ill. When
I make a thousand more just like it, or as like it as I can manage, that
is craft. Fine craft, I hope. Any kindergartener can create art. Of
course, there are those who so excel at art that we venerate them. They
inspire us and help us to understand and feel more of life. These
notable artists have one thing in common. They are all, also, excellent
craftsmen. Only time and work and skill allow one to create quality
craft. If I had to choose one or the other, I would choose to be a fine
craftsman, but I think there is an artist in each of us. The craftsman
in us must be developed and nurtured before the true potential of the
artist can find its way to the surface.

Cary Chleborad wrote:

>Hey folks..
>
>I don't often comment but...
>
>On the thought of being an artist or producing a piece of artwork: isn't it
>still art no matter the originality of the design? Isn't one aspect of
>"art" the simple act of using materials to create some end work?
>
>I think the act of understanding clay enough to select a particular mix,
>wedge it and throw it into a pot and glaze it using your skill, feeling
>intuition etc, IS the act of art. It doesn't matter if the particular shape
>and glaze pattern has been created by millions of others, it is YOUR
>artwork. Someone's design is an IDEA.... the creation of and the end product
>is the art.
>
>What you do is art, not necessarily what it looks like.
>
>A final example: The IMAGE in the Mona Lisa is simply a rendition of some
>woman, no different that a simple modern snapshot photograph.
>
>The painting - the canvas, the paint, the brush strokes, the fact that when
>you view the Mona Lisa you know that a man, long dead, created this piece of
>art with his feeling, soul and skill - This IS the art.
>
>My two cents!
>
>-Cary
>
>

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