claybair on fri 17 jun 05
Gee.... let's see....
"Copy Real Artsy Pots"
or C.R.A.P. for short.
Years ago I was in a teaching studio that decided to add
"paint someone else's pottery" to the curriculum.
It was not a happy marriage.
Any feedback on this?
Gayle Bair - my apologies if you were actually serious!
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Helen Gentry
Does anyone have a clever name idea for a contemporary
paint-your-own-pottery/ traditional pottery studio?
Helen Gentry on fri 17 jun 05
Does anyone have a clever name idea for a contemporary paint-your-own-pottery/ traditional pottery studio?
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Chris Campbell on sat 18 jun 05
Gayle wrote :
>"Copy Real Artsy Pots"
or C.R.A.P. for short.
WOW !! That's a little harsh.
We should all give thanks to those paint your pots places.
Have you noticed lately that our underglaze colors now look
more like the finished product?
That's their doing.
Customers got discouraged by not being able to visualize
the end product.
I am not ashamed to admit I have used these stores.
I had customers who loved Christmas plates.
I can do the artwork but have no interest in throwing plates.
... problem solved ... they pick the plate and I decorate it.
The places love having me in there because I make it look
so easy ... I get a break on prices.
I do get tired of the snobbisms of pottery ... all the levels we
create to determine who is "real".
"Real" is doing what you love well ... and if that is painting
greenware ... GO FOR IT.
Chris Campbell - in North Carolina - got the " Pottery Slut" t-shirt
but wondering if I can wear it since I get paid?
Chris Campbell Pottery LLC
9417 Koupela Drive
Raleigh NC 27615-2233
Fine Colored Porcelain since 1989
1-800-652-1008
Fax : 919-676-2062
website: www.ccpottery.com
wholesale : www.wholesalecrafts.com
Dean Poole on sun 19 jun 05
She doesn=92t need harsh criticism on her business Idea just a cleaver name
and maybe some advice on how to run it safely lets help not hinder. Personal=
Pottery might work for a name.
claybair on sun 19 jun 05
Chris,
I admit it was harsh.... and I actually did hesitate before posting it.
Perhaps my attitude comes from the fact that
a huge number of these stores use and/or have used
leaded glazes that do leach lead and can only claim to be safe because they
meet antiquated leaching guidelines from 1970.
Do check what glazes your "paint someone else's pottery" shop
is using like Duncan Diamond Clear and the "safe" ones they had to recall.
I have taken issue with this in the past and will not back down.
They use these glazes, fire in enclosed spaces.... vented who knows???
All the while offering their spaces for birthday parties etc..." What a
little
cadmium underglaze on your cake?... no problem!"
This is the source of my harshness.
I now offer to retract my former apology!
Gayle Bair - in hornet mode.....bzzzzzzzz
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Campbell
Gayle wrote :
>"Copy Real Artsy Pots"
or C.R.A.P. for short.
WOW !! That's a little harsh.
We should all give thanks to those paint your pots places.
Have you noticed lately that our underglaze colors now look
more like the finished product?
That's their doing.
Customers got discouraged by not being able to visualize
the end product.
I am not ashamed to admit I have used these stores.
Snail Scott on sun 19 jun 05
At 10:12 PM 6/17/2005 -0700, Gayle wrote:
>Gee.... let's see....
>"Copy Real Artsy Pots"
>or C.R.A.P. for short.
>Years ago I was in a teaching studio that decided to add
>"paint someone else's pottery" to the curriculum.
>It was not a happy marriage.
>Any feedback on this?
I used to teach at a paint-a-pot shop. The
bread and butter of the business was people
painting greenware, mainly kids, housewives,
families and groups - offered pot-painting
parties for birthdays, etc. No harm in it, and
there are a lot of folks who wouldn't dream
of trying to make anything from scratch who
were willing to have a go at painting, and
who liked the idea that their fun creativity
time for the week might result in a useful
object, too. (Easier to justify to the family,
if they're not too supportive of 'more useless
craft stuff' like actual paintings around the
house.) A lot of people seemed to like doing
it for gifts or some such, too - not wanting to
acquire a whole new skill set, but just to
make a litle customized thingie for a friend.
The owner of this shop put a few wheels and
worktables in a back room, and some mid-range
glazes, and hired me and a local potter to
teach classes in the evenings. We possibly
didn't get as many really serious students
as classes in another venue might, but I
can't be sure of that, either. Many of our
students came because they saw the ads in the
paper for classes in pottery and sculpture,
and couldn't care less where they were held.
Some, though, were 'paint-a-pot' customers
who, having decided they were capable of
glazing, and having painted a lot of the stock
forms in the shop, decided they wanted to try
make their own objects.
Not everyone in the shop ended up wanting to
do their own claywork, but a lot of people
who would never have considered it ended up
giving it a try because they'd already learned
a little about it, and were comfortable with
the environment, and were inspired by the
handmade clay objects coming out of the kiln
next to their own work. The 'paint-a-pot'
system is an end in itself for most of its
customers, but it's a leg up to the next level
for others, and I wouldn't scorn them for
starting where they did.
-Snail
Snail Scott on mon 20 jun 05
Manic Ceramic?
Going To Pot?
The Pot Spot?
Actually, I wonder if a less 'cute' name
might bring in customers prepared to
spend more cash on their hobbies:
The Painted Pot
Your Painted Pottery
Personal Pottery and Decor
Designed By You
Creative Color Ceramics
DesignTime Pottery Painting
Or maybe not. Just guessing.
-Snail
Elizabeth Priddy on mon 20 jun 05
My thoughts
My friend named her place "Paintin' and Kil'n Time"
It folded in two years.
I am convinced that it was the name. The very name implied
that the work produced was of no value and that it was just
a way to entertain your kids, like a Chuckee Cheese.
Also. I hate it when people call clay "mud" and all the
mud variants. It is a personal quirk. Mud is the muck that
gets on my shoes and that has biological detritus, like leaves
and bugs and crap in it. Clay is a purified substance that can
be converted to stone. Potters don't make mudpies, in my opinion.
So I wouldn't make the name some variant on the "Fun in the Mud"
theme either.
But that is just my opinion.
E
Dean Poole wrote:
She doesn’t need harsh criticism on her business Idea just a cleaver name
and maybe some advice on how to run it safely lets help not hinder. Personal
Pottery might work for a name.
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Rosemarie Bauer on mon 20 jun 05
Hello Helen,
"Hot Pots" might work. Or one I particularly like.... "Fire Escape"
Both clever me thinks!
cheers
Rose
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