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visiting d.c. area-any suggestions?

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Paul Lewing on fri 10 jun 05


on 6/10/05 10:42 AM, kim b. at ak_kimby@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> Also, any other places we need to see or restaurants we need to eat at
> (italian especially!) Not real interested in tours of the White House type
> things, but will go to see the Lincoln Memorial

If you go to the Lincoln Memorial, just across the street is what I think is
the best piece of public art I've ever seen, the Vietnam War Memorial. If
you've seen the small-scale replicas that travel around the country, you
haven't seen the piece. It is amazingly powerful. You get into it and out
of it gradually, but before you know it, you're in over your head and
there's nothing but 58,000 dead people. What a perfect metaphor for that
war! (Sorry, Mel, is that politics?) Don't miss it. The Korean War
Memorial is right next to it, and it's a haunting piece as well, but I think
the Vietnam Memorial is more creative.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Warren Heintz on fri 10 jun 05


Thanks, now that you've mentioned his name ,it is familiar. I'll have to do a web search. Very fine work. My family has a generational history as "finish" carpenters and cabinetmakers. I know damn well that's why I do sculpture. I think that it all ultimately boils down to the individual, and his or her preception of what they are doing and why. I remember that many years ago I was up in Tyler,Texas were a lot of terrcotta flower pots are mass-producced,originally by hand,now more mechanized. There were a couple of potters still there to make the pots for mold to be made from,and for the tourist. Their mastery of the wheel,standing and throwing, was very matter-of-fact. But saddy it was all very much a job, a routine,and work stayed at work when they went home. Se la vie. W.

Snail Scott wrote:At 01:26 PM 6/10/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>...Walked right passed what seemed to be a grandfather clock drapped in a
white sheet and bound with rope. The security guard that was
there,literally turned me around and said to go look at it again,closer
this time. The whole thing was carved from one piece of wood...


That was by Wendell Castle. For one person's view
of art and craft, and 'contemporary' style, look
at his work across time. Used to make furniture -
very elegant, impeccably crafted. Now, he makes
art, using the same skill set. (Not going to get
into 'why isn't furniture-making an art' here -
labels are awkward, artificial things, but they
do point up contrasts even while they hide similarity,
or vice versa.) My dad, a hobby furniture-maker,
was appalled to see the change in Castle's work as
he was seen less in furniture magazines and more in
art magazines instead. Others were delighted to see
a 'new' artist enter the contemporary art arena.
Room for lots of arguments there. And lots of thought.

'Fine Craft' had a place in two worlds, and a lot of
pottery sits beneath that hybrid umbrella, too.

-Snail

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kim b. on fri 10 jun 05


Hi all; my husband and I will be in the Washington D.C. area on July 20-25th. (his college roommate is retiring from the Air Force and we are invited to the Pentagon for the ceremony!)
While searching for a reasonably priced hotel (which I need suggestions for) I came across the Torpedo Factory Art Center. This looks like an AMAZING place!! Has anyone been there? Can anyone tell me how safe the old Town Alexandra area would be to stay in? Also, any other places we need to see or restaurants we need to eat at (italian especially!) Not real interested in tours of the White House type things, but will go to see the Lincoln Memorial and maybe a little of the Smithsonian. Won't have much time, but suggestions are welcome. Email me off list if it doesn't pertain to CLAY so we don't get in trouble :) kim, in Colorado, U.S.A. where it's raining ......AGAIN and AGAIN ak_kimby@yahoo.com


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Matt MacIntire on fri 10 jun 05


If you like oriental ceramics, you must make arrangements to go to the
Freer Gallery.

The regular displays are usually great. Even better though... they
will let you have access to the room where the ceramics collection is
stored. You can examine and HOLD the pots which interest you. Looking
at pots in museums is nice. Cupping a venerable pot in your hands is a
rare treat. You turn it over, feel the weight, look at the bottom. You
feel so much more connected to the pot when you can handle it. There is
nothing quite like holding a 10,000 year old Jomon pot to make you feel
connected to ceramics long history.

You will need to make reservations. I'm pretty sure you can find all
the contact information online.

Enjoy your trip.

Warren Heintz on fri 10 jun 05


Oh man! Where does one start? But if I only had the time for one place it would be the Rennwick! Don't let the building fool you ,it was a mansion at one time looks like it would be full of old dusty doillies. It does have some old stuff,but the two times that I was there I saw some of the finest crafted comtemporary crafts/art. The works blurred whatever artificial borders are said to exist between the two disciplines. Walked right passed what seemed to be a grandfather clock drapped in a white sheet and bound with rope. The security guard that was there,literally turned me around and said to go look at it again,closer this time. The whole thing was carved from one piece of wood. The cloth part was colored white,the rope like hemp and the bit of what was the clock ,a third of the way down,had a walnut finish. The Rennwick is located behind the White House, and Excutive Bldg. Definitely on any maps. Hope you enjoy walking. W.

Matt MacIntire wrote:If you like oriental ceramics, you must make arrangements to go to the
Freer Gallery.

The regular displays are usually great. Even better though... they
will let you have access to the room where the ceramics collection is
stored. You can examine and HOLD the pots which interest you. Looking
at pots in museums is nice. Cupping a venerable pot in your hands is a
rare treat. You turn it over, feel the weight, look at the bottom. You
feel so much more connected to the pot when you can handle it. There is
nothing quite like holding a 10,000 year old Jomon pot to make you feel
connected to ceramics long history.

You will need to make reservations. I'm pretty sure you can find all
the contact information online.

Enjoy your trip.

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Beth DeBor on fri 10 jun 05


I was in Alexandria a number of years ago and back then it was really nice
and safe. It's a quaint little shopping town--great for walking around. I
stayed at the Embassy Suites which was very nice but I can't remember what
the rates were. Even if I could, I'm sure they've gone up considerably
since then. Good luck and have a great time.

Marcia Selsor on fri 10 jun 05


I always stay in the Kalorama Guest House (BB) on Cathedral. (room 8
has a back porch swing) There is a second Kalorama Guest House on
Meridian Circle. The first one is an easy walk to the metro AND the
ethnic restaurants in Adams Morgan.
There is a great Afghan Grill before you cross the Columbia Ave
Bridge going toward Adams Morgan. The Torpedo Factory is a must.The
Renwick museum of Crafts branch of the Smithsonian is just across
from the White House has a great collection on permanent display plus
occasional shows. Kenneth Trapp is the curator. Also interesting is
the textile Museum up around R st. I love DC!!!!!!! Just on the mall
is enough to keep you busy all week. Don't forget the Chinese and
Japanese pots in the Freer/Sackler museums just behind the
Smithsonian Castle. You can hold the pots in the storage room if you
contact a curator. The museum is underground several stories. I love
to eat lunch in the Smithsonian Museum of America in the basement
drug store environment. The Hirschorn has an eclectic collection and
the new sculpture garden between the National Gallery and the Museum
of America is really nice.
Marcia Selsor

On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:42 AM, kim b. wrote:

> Hi all; my husband and I will be in the Washington D.C. area on
> July 20-25th. (his college roommate is retiring from the Air Force
> and we are invited to the Pentagon for the ceremony!)
> While searching for a reasonably priced hotel (which I need
> suggestions for) I came across the Torpedo Factory Art Center. This
> looks like an AMAZING place!! Has anyone been there? Can anyone
> tell me how safe the old Town Alexandra area would be to stay in?
> Also, any other places we need to see or restaurants we need to eat
> at (italian especially!) Not real interested in tours of the White
> House type things, but will go to see the Lincoln Memorial and
> maybe a little of the Smithsonian. Won't have much time, but
> suggestions are welcome. Email me off list if it doesn't pertain to
> CLAY so we don't get in trouble :) kim, in Colorado, U.S.A.
> where it's raining ......AGAIN and AGAIN ak_kimby@yahoo.com
>
>
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Jeanette Harris on fri 10 jun 05


>The Renwick museum of Crafts branch of the Smithsonian is just across
>from the White House has a great collection on permanent display plus
occasional shows.

Walk past Lafayette Park to the left as you exit the Renwick, go 3
more blocks (angling off onto New York Ave.) and you'll come to the
National Museum of Women in the Arts. It has a permanent collection
of works by women dating from the Renaissance to the present. Don't
miss the library on the third floor. An exhibit of the book as art is
still there, I think. The second floor has exhibits that are
constantly changing. Check out the hours and details on a
http://www.nmwa.org.

There's a great museum shop and, if you're there on the right days, a
great place to have lunch.
--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA

Potter's Council member

Jeanette Harris on fri 10 jun 05


Oh, nearly forgot--if you have about 3 hours, check out the new
National Museum of the American Indian. http://www.nmai.si.edu/ It's
located between the Capital Building/botanical garden and the Air and
Space Museum on the east side of the mall. It's a unique museum, not
set up like any other and offers 3 floors of exhibits in a beautiful
new building. Also a unique place for lunch with ethnic meals offered.
--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA

Potter's Council member

Snail Scott on fri 10 jun 05


At 01:26 PM 6/10/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>...Walked right passed what seemed to be a grandfather clock drapped in a
white sheet and bound with rope. The security guard that was
there,literally turned me around and said to go look at it again,closer
this time. The whole thing was carved from one piece of wood...


That was by Wendell Castle. For one person's view
of art and craft, and 'contemporary' style, look
at his work across time. Used to make furniture -
very elegant, impeccably crafted. Now, he makes
art, using the same skill set. (Not going to get
into 'why isn't furniture-making an art' here -
labels are awkward, artificial things, but they
do point up contrasts even while they hide similarity,
or vice versa.) My dad, a hobby furniture-maker,
was appalled to see the change in Castle's work as
he was seen less in furniture magazines and more in
art magazines instead. Others were delighted to see
a 'new' artist enter the contemporary art arena.
Room for lots of arguments there. And lots of thought.

'Fine Craft' had a place in two worlds, and a lot of
pottery sits beneath that hybrid umbrella, too.

-Snail

Jeanette Harris on sat 11 jun 05


How could I forget? The Corcoran Gallery is one block to the east of
the Renwick on 17th St. Check http://www.corcoran.org. It's open
Wednesdays - Mondays with a late night Thurs. to 9 p.m. The range of
exhibitions cover a wide spectrum. We saw an excellent one several
years ago that was treasures of the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul. You
can find the current offerings by checking the website.

Also a great place to have lunch, but they only serve Wed., Fri.,
Sat. from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Thurs 11-3 and dinner at 4-8 p.m. and a
Sunday brunch at 10:30-2 p.m. There is usually music offered during
lunch and the menu is excellent. Not cheap, though, but well worth
it. Sure beats eating from Starbucks or the sidewalk stands! Good
places to eat are few and far between when you get to the Mall area,
so knowing where you can have an enjoyable lunch and rest your tired
feet is a good thing.

--
Jeanette Harris
Poulsbo WA

Potter's Council member

Marcia Selsor on sat 11 jun 05


I found the Viet nam War Memorial too overpowering within the first
20 feet. I started crying. It is really powerful.
Nearby is the OAS building where the Architecural ceramics show was
held a few years ago. Inside is a great piece by Peter King a la Mayan.
Marcia Sleosr

Paul said:

you go to the Lincoln Memorial, just across the street is what I
think is
> the best piece of public art I've ever seen, the Vietnam War
> Memorial. If
> you've seen the small-scale replicas that travel around the
> country, you
> haven't seen the piece. It is amazingly powerful. You get into it
> and out
> of it gradually, but before you know it, you're in over your head and
> there's nothing but 58,000 dead people. What a perfect metaphor
> for that
> war! (Sorry, Mel, is that politics?) Don't miss it. The Korean War
> Memorial is right next to it, and it's a haunting piece as well,
> but I think
> the Vietnam Memorial is more creative.
> Paul Lewing, Seattle

Steve Slatin on sat 11 jun 05


Jeanette --

IIRC, it's 2 blocks south, on the West side of 17th. I
may be turned around now, but 1 block to the east
should be Lafayette park.

Doesn't anyone go to the Phillips anymore? It's up
around Q st. near the Dupont Circle metro, has an
admission fee but is free one day a week, and for an
extremely small museum (it was once a family home,
since extended to 2x to floor space) has an unusually
rich and interesting collection. Braque, Renoir,
Kandinsky ...

-- Steve Slatin

--- Jeanette Harris wrote:

> How could I forget? The Corcoran Gallery is one
> block to the east of
> the Renwick on 17th St. Check
> http://www.corcoran.org. It's open


Steve Slatin --

Frail my heart apart and play me little Shady Grove
Ring the bells of Rhymney till they ring inside my head forever



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