L. P. Skeen on mon 20 jun 05
I don't see why you'd have to pay taxes on the way INTO Canada, since the
stuff already belongs to you. The taxing should be on the way OUT of
Canada, based on sales.
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristin Schnelten"
> I am an American, planning to travel to Canada in August to sell at an art
> fair.
(Fill out a million forms and pay some taxes, basically.)
Hank Murrow on mon 20 jun 05
On Jun 20, 2005, at 7:12 AM, Kristin Schnelten wrote:
> I am an American, planning to travel to Canada in August to sell at an
> art
> fair. I have spoken with a customs officer and a tax official for the
> province, so I have a general idea of what I will need to do at the
> border. (Fill out a million forms and pay some taxes, basically.)
>
> But I would love to talk to someone with first-hand experience in such
> a
> situation. Have any of you ever taken a carload of pottery to Canada
> with
> the intention of selling at an art fair? Please let me know, I have
> just
> a couple questions to ask about the process.
Dear Kristin;
I am also traveling to Canada in August (to present a workshop at the
Kelowna Clay Festival in British Columbia). I will also be carrying
pots for sale, as well as my special tools for sale, along with the
personal tools I will need to present my workshop.
I would be grateful to you if you would cc me with anything you find
useful by way of Clayart response to your query.
Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank
Pat Lindemann on mon 20 jun 05
Be careful- I am hoping that my experience was not a normal experience, but I will recount it for you, just so you realize that they can get a bit nasty at the border...maybe it was the time of year, or we just got a grumpy group of guards- but I will say we haven't been back.
I was invited to show work at an exhibit in Canada about 12 years ago- and it was not a good experience. I also asked around to find out what would be required to cross the border. I was told that it should be no problem, that I should bring 3 copies of the inventory of work that I was bringing, along with the usual identification etc. to show to the people at the border. Well, it was much more complex than that- I was first directed to an inner parking lot when I explained that the crates in my car were for an exhibit in Canada. Then from the inner parking lot, I was directed to proceed into the building to the counter. At the counter, I met yet another official who asked for identification, and who directed me to an office. From that office, after some questions and having to show proof of the exhibit that I was attending, I was directed to an inner office. I was told that Canada did not allow out of country artists to sell work in their country, but (and I am quoting here-)
"for $150 we could overlook it". I looked at my husband and he looked at me and we thought- why not? We didn't pay any fees to be part of the exhibit. Then they directed us to yet an more inner office- with no windows- At this point they asked us whether we had ever been convicted of any crimes- My husband, being the honest soul that he is, said that "....well, I did get a DUI when I was in my 20's". Then they told us that they could not allow criminals into their country....but "for $150, they could overlook it". Well, my husband and I exchanged one more look and I shook my head- the"nope, not worth it" look. And we took our children, and our IDs, and our copies of inventory in triplicate, and proof of the exhibit and trooped out back to the car and spent the next few days enjoying the sites around the border on the American side and went home.
LIke I said, this is probably not the norm, but beware :)
take care!
Pat
Kristin Schnelten wrote:
Hi again, all -
I have another quick question:
I am an American, planning to travel to Canada in August to sell at an art
fair. I have spoken with a customs officer and a tax official for the
province, so I have a general idea of what I will need to do at the
border. (Fill out a million forms and pay some taxes, basically.)
But I would love to talk to someone with first-hand experience in such a
situation. Have any of you ever taken a carload of pottery to Canada with
the intention of selling at an art fair? Please let me know, I have just
a couple questions to ask about the process.
Thank you so much, everyone - Kristin
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http://www.kgspottery.com
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Kristin Schnelten on mon 20 jun 05
Hi again, all -
I have another quick question:
I am an American, planning to travel to Canada in August to sell at an art
fair. I have spoken with a customs officer and a tax official for the
province, so I have a general idea of what I will need to do at the
border. (Fill out a million forms and pay some taxes, basically.)
But I would love to talk to someone with first-hand experience in such a
situation. Have any of you ever taken a carload of pottery to Canada with
the intention of selling at an art fair? Please let me know, I have just
a couple questions to ask about the process.
Thank you so much, everyone - Kristin
---------------------------------
Kristin Gail Schnelten
http://www.kgspottery.com
clayart@kgspottery.com
Rosemarie Bauer on tue 21 jun 05
For $150.00, I could overlook it?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:22:43 -0700, Pat Lindemann
wrote:
>Be careful- I am hoping that my experience was not a normal experience,
but I will recount it for you, just so you realize that they can get a bit
nasty at the border...maybe it was the time of year, or we just got a
grumpy group of guards- but I will say we haven't been back.
>
>I was invited to show work at an exhibit in Canada about 12 years ago-
and it was not a good experience. I also asked around to find out what
would be required to cross the border. I was told that it should be no
problem, that I should bring 3 copies of the inventory of work that I was
bringing, along with the usual identification etc. to show to the people
at the border. Well, it was much more complex than that- I was first
directed to an inner parking lot when I explained that the crates in my
car were for an exhibit in Canada. Then from the inner parking lot, I was
directed to proceed into the building to the counter. At the counter, I
met yet another official who asked for identification, and who directed me
to an office. From that office, after some questions and having to show
proof of the exhibit that I was attending, I was directed to an inner
office. I was told that Canada did not allow out of country artists to
sell work in their country, but (and I am quoting here-)
> "for $150 we could overlook it".
I AM INCREDULOUS... ARE YOU SUGGESTING THE CANADIAN BORDER PATROL WERE
ASKING YOU TO GREASE THEIR PALMS?
I looked at my husband and he looked at me and we thought- why not? We
didn't pay any fees to be part of the exhibit. Then they directed us to
yet an more inner office- with no windows- At this point they asked us
whether we had ever been convicted of any crimes- My husband, being the
honest soul that he is, said that "....well, I did get a DUI when I was in
my 20's". Then they told us that they could not allow criminals into
their country....but "for $150, they could overlook it".
AGAIN, I FIND MYSELF SHAKING MY HEAD AT YOUR POST. IT INTIMATES SOME KIND
OF SHADY BUSINESS BEING DONE AT OUR BORDER AND I, AS A CANADIAN, FIND THIS
SUGGESTION INSULTING AND I MIGHT ADD, BEYOND BELIEF.
Well, my husband and I exchanged one more look and I shook my head-
the"nope, not worth it" look. And we took our children, and our IDs, and
our copies of inventory in triplicate, and proof of the exhibit and
trooped out back to the car and spent the next few days enjoying the sites
around the border on the American side and went home.
>
>LIke I said, this is probably not the norm, but beware :)
>take care!
>Pat
>Kristin Schnelten wrote:
>Hi again, all -
>
>I have another quick question:
>
>I am an American, planning to travel to Canada in August to sell at an art
>fair. I have spoken with a customs officer and a tax official for the
>province, so I have a general idea of what I will need to do at the
>border. (Fill out a million forms and pay some taxes, basically.)
>
>But I would love to talk to someone with first-hand experience in such a
>situation. Have any of you ever taken a carload of pottery to Canada with
>the intention of selling at an art fair? Please let me know, I have just
>a couple questions to ask about the process.
>
>Thank you so much, everyone - Kristin
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Kristin Gail Schnelten
>http://www.kgspottery.com
>clayart@kgspottery.com
>
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Steve Slatin on tue 21 jun 05
L.P. --
It's an import duty. Paid on the way in. Pretty much
universal in the modern world. There is a
nearly-universal exception in the case of articles for
personal use in small quantities for tourists; that
clearly wouldn't apply here.
-- Steve Slatin
--- "L. P. Skeen" wrote:
> I don't see why you'd have to pay taxes on the way
> INTO Canada, since the
> stuff already belongs to you. The taxing should be
> on the way OUT of
> Canada, based on sales.
>
> L
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kristin Schnelten"
> > I am an American, planning to travel to Canada in
> August to sell at an art
> > fair.
> (Fill out a million forms and pay some taxes,
> basically.)
>
>
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>
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Kristin Schnelten on sat 20 aug 05
Hi all -
I just returned home from the craft fair in Canada. Surprisingly, the
process at the border turned out to be quite simple.
The one piece of advice I have to offer is this: Get A Broker. All of the
agents I spoke with on the phone told me I should get one, as it would make
the process easier. But when I prodded, they all said I could just do it
on my own if I like. They were all wrong, at least according to the
customs agent I got at the border. You apparently Have To Have A Broker,
unless you have an established office for your business within Canada.
I can share details with anyone interested, just send me an e-mail off-
list. Thanks so much for your help, those who responded to my initial
question. It was a great show!
- Kristin
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Kristin Gail Schnelten
Functional Porcelain and Stoneware
http://www.kgspottery.com
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