Vince Pitelka on sun 3 jul 05
Bill Schran wrote:
"Vince - Have you looked into L&L's front loaders? Sweet!"
Bill -
I want to thank you for that suggestion. I didn't even realize that L&L
made institutional-quality frontloader electrics, so this is a very nice
surprise. In my previous message I said that there have been stready
improvements in already-good products since Steven Lewicky took over L&L,
and the appearance of these frontloaders is another good example.
One of the problems with our old Unique frontloaders is the degradation of
the IFB element grooves, and L&L's element holders would be a great
advantage. I do like Bailey products, and they are backed by some of the
best service in the business.
Now I can get Bailey and L&L bidding against each other. I know that
Olympic also makes frontloader electrics in the same price range, but I am
not very impressed with Olympic's record of service and quality. Does
anyone out there own and use an Olympic frontloader electric?
Are there any other leading companies currently manufacturing
institutional-quality frontloading electric kilns?
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Wayne Seidl on sun 3 jul 05
Vince:
Talk to our own Arnold Howard. Paragon makes a wondrous front
loader (Dragon 24), one that puts me in a state of terminal lust
each time I see it. Talk about wants and needs! (Don't go there
Tony :>)
Wayne Seidl
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Pitelka
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: L&L frontloader electric kilns
Bill Schran wrote:
"Vince - Have you looked into L&L's front loaders? Sweet!"
snip
Are there any other leading companies currently manufacturing
institutional-quality frontloading electric kilns?
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
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Liz Harris on mon 4 jul 05
On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:10:32 -0400, Wayne Seidl wrote:
>Vince:
>Talk to our own Arnold Howard. Paragon makes a wondrous front
>loader (Dragon 24), one that puts me in a state of terminal lust
>each time I see it. Talk about wants and needs! (Don't go there
>Tony :>)
>Wayne Seidl
>
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>Pitelka
>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:06 AM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: L&L frontloader electric kilns
>
>Bill Schran wrote:
>"Vince - Have you looked into L&L's front loaders? Sweet!"
>snip
>
>Are there any other leading companies currently manufacturing
>institutional-quality frontloading electric kilns?
>- Vince
>
>Vince Pitelka
>Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
>Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
>vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
>http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
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Hello all,
I have been very interested in Paragon's new Super Dragon, that lovely front-loader
big enough for my pots. I believe the walls are just 4 inches thick, though. Bailey's
has large commercial-style front-loaders with 7 inch thick walls, and I'm told that the
exterior stays cool--safer to work around and should be more energy-efficient. The
higher cost of a commercial-style kiln should eventually be offset by long-term
savings in energy costs. Pottery kilns are so woefully under-insulated, for the most
part. Energy expenditure is such a sizeable portion of a potter's budget--when will
more manufacturers start to respond with products designed to counter it?
Liz Harris
Goddess Earthworks
John Hesselberth on mon 4 jul 05
On Monday, July 4, 2005, at 02:01 AM, Liz Harris wrote:
> Pottery kilns are so woefully under-insulated, for the most
> part. Energy expenditure is such a sizeable portion of a potter's
> budget--when will
> more manufacturers start to respond with products designed to counter
> it?
Hi Liz,
I think the answer to this is when we potters show some interest in
having better quality products AND are willing to pay for them. We are
a pretty cheap bunch. We don't even care enough to support our local
pottery supply dealer if we can get something 5-10% cheaper by ordering
it from across the country. We, as a group, don't seem to have much
understanding of 'life cycle costs' of owning and operating a
product--especially kilns.
Regards,
John
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