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ken matsuzaki trimming

updated tue 12 jul 05

 

Jenny Lewis on mon 11 jul 05


Hi Russel, and everyone

I have just put up a photo of Ken trimming:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21152566@N00/

The disc you mention is just about visible.

I was also amazed at his trimming technique, just hack a bit away here and
there, and ta daaaa, that's it. The women from Benin were my favourite potters
of the weekend. Must try to do a fat-belly coil pot or two, though I don't
know if my back will cope with working the way they do, pain-killers or no!

Jenny
in Eastleigh, UK

Earl Brunner on mon 11 jul 05


I've used that technique since the 70's, typically I will use either a coin or a jar lid from a small jar. It's something a lot of us picked up when Iwas in college in Utah. when I started throwing down here in Vegas, a lot of potters wondered what the heck I was doing.......

Jenny Lewis wrote:Hi Russel, and everyone

I have just put up a photo of Ken trimming:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21152566@N00/

The disc you mention is just about visible.

I was also amazed at his trimming technique, just hack a bit away here and
there, and ta daaaa, that's it. The women from Benin were my favourite potters
of the weekend. Must try to do a fat-belly coil pot or two, though I don't
know if my back will cope with working the way they do, pain-killers or no!

Jenny
in Eastleigh, UK

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Daniel Semler on mon 11 jul 05


Hi Earl,

So what is the purpose of the coin or disc ? Is it used because the clay is a
bit ( a lot ? ) softer when trimming like this ? Or ...

> I've used that technique since the 70's, typically I will use either
> a coin or a jar lid from a small jar.

Thanx
D

William & Susan Schran User on mon 11 jul 05


On 7/11/05 11:49 AM, "Daniel Semler" wrote:

> So what is the purpose of the coin or disc ? Is it used because the clay is
> a
> bit ( a lot ? ) softer when trimming like this ? Or ...

Or...it's used to hold the pot in place while trimming.

I teach my students to use a jar lid (favorites are baby food jar lids) to
hold a pot down in place while trimming in a chuck. The lid let's one apply
quite a bit of pressure (lid spreads out the pressure) yet have the
lid/pot/chuck turn freely.


--
William "Bill" Schran
Fredericksburg, Virginia

Earl Brunner on mon 11 jul 05


Tap the pot on center, don't use any clay dogs to anchor your pot to the wheel or bat or what ever, you push down on the pot to counteract the sideways pressure of the trim tool. The coin, jar lid, disk of whatever, allows you to apply more downward pressure to hold the pot in place than you perhaps could otherwise. It does a couple of things in the process. It spreads out the pressure, which could be a problem with a soft or thin pot. And generally it will reduce friction, your fingers slide on it better than on the bare clay.

That's why I use it, can't speak for guy at Aberswyth (sp).

Daniel Semler wrote:
Hi Earl,

So what is the purpose of the coin or disc ? Is it used because the clay is a
bit ( a lot ? ) softer when trimming like this ? Or ...

> I've used that technique since the 70's, typically I will use either
> a coin or a jar lid from a small jar.

Thanx
D

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Daniel Semler on mon 11 jul 05


Hi Earl, Bill,

Haven't so far noticed the need to distribute the pressure with tap centered
trimming (but then I haven't been doing it that long), and chucks I usually
throw wet, so the pot sticks to it a bit. But thanx for the info. Never know
when a technique will come in handy.

Thanx
D


> Tap the pot on center, don't use any clay dogs to anchor your pot to
> the wheel or bat or what ever, you push down on the pot to counteract
> the sideways pressure of the trim tool. The coin, jar lid, disk of
> whatever, allows you to apply more downward pressure to hold the pot
> in place than you perhaps could otherwise. It does a couple of
> things in the process. It spreads out the pressure, which could be a
> problem with a soft or thin pot. And generally it will reduce
> friction, your fingers slide on it better than on the bare clay.
>
> That's why I use it, can't speak for guy at Aberswyth (sp).
>
> Daniel Semler wrote:
> Hi Earl,
>
> So what is the purpose of the coin or disc ? Is it used because the clay is a
> bit ( a lot ? ) softer when trimming like this ? Or ...
>
>> I've used that technique since the 70's, typically I will use either
>> a coin or a jar lid from a small jar.
>
> Thanx
> D
>
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